Football Outsider win predictions

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Yes. Without any changes to our team, you see-
Our first 7 opponents include several teams we should beat and we could be 6-2 by week 9 again.
We really have an easier schedule then last year (no Pitt/Balt and SD in Dec will be perfect weather/timing)
we play Dallas late December, and if they are losing they could very well implode between coaching and Romo/Kitna
we have one less preseason game,
and a slightly better positioned bye.

Changes to our team that should help also:
JC is as motivated as he could ever be
AH should improve our DLine and big play D's
ARE will not be returning punts (i really am sure of this, but no real way to prove it)
JZ will have a season under his belt
For every big play D Hall gives up, we ought to get 1-2 TO's that change a game.
Finally, last year's rookies all now have one year under their belt. (Yes a year can make a huge difference)

Finally,
as the other poster said, our Division rivals all have more transitional issues than us, and I believe Philly and the Giants D's both will see their D's soften slightly under the new coaches.

Nice post...a well reasoned positive outlook. The kicker IMO is whether Thomas or Kelly breakout. That will change everything on offense almost instantly. Personally I feel Devin is the better prospect for a breakout (this season). I really, really hope he and JC have developed chemistry. Wouldn't it be amazing to have an offense really fun to watch again!?

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I expect we will win at least 10 games, and the division title should be in reach. The only way that doesn't happen is if the WR's just completely bomb.

You are forgetting about one major unit that thus far hasn't been really upgraded and that is the offensive line. JC could end up doing a Patrick Ramsey impersonation during the Spurrier days, and CP might get pounded. We might have two weak links in our offense if these newbie WRs do indeed bomb, because odds are the line is going to get banged up often.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

You are forgetting about one major unit that thus far hasn't been really upgraded and that is the offensive line. JC could end up doing a Patrick Ramsey impersonation during the Spurrier days, and CP might get pounded. We might have two weak links in our offense if these newbie WRs do indeed bomb, because odds are the line is going to get banged up often.

No, I didn't forget, and I still hope we bring Levi Jones in to back up Samuels. The rest of the line is average to slightly above average talent, and other than our 6 division games, they should hold their own, and we won 3 out of 6 with this unit. I am confident we will at least split our division again.

[skindeep]

@NYG L
STL W
@DET W
TB W
@CAR W
KC W
PHIL W
-BYE-
@ ATL W
DEN W
@DAL L
@ PHI L
NO W
@OAK W
NYG W
DAL W
@ SD L

Thats how I see it. I split the east because its always a toss up. 11-5

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by skindeep

@NYG L
STL W
@DET W
TB W
@CAR W
KC W
PHIL W
-BYE-
@ ATL W
DEN W
@DAL L
@ PHI L
NO W
@OAK W
NYG W
DAL W
@ SD L

Thats how I see it. I split the east because its always a toss up. 11-5

We win at both Carolina and Atlanta? That IS positive thinking!

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by skindeep

@NYG L
STL W
@DET W
TB W
@CAR W
KC W
PHIL W
-BYE-
@ ATL W
DEN W
@DAL L
@ PHI L
NO W
@OAK W
NYG W
DAL W
@ SD L

Thats how I see it. I split the east because its always a toss up. 11-5

11-5? I hope so, but then reality will sink in by week 6-8 that we are average. Everyone is talking about our young Wrs and rightly so. They are a big wildcard in terms of if we are going to be successful. The prognosticators seem to think Thomas is going to breakout, but they are not too keen on the others. Also they do make a big point about our rather aged offensive line. Those guys collapsed last season, and the FO did not address this glaring need for an upgrade. Haynesworth ard Orakpo will bolster our D, but then again our D was rated 4th while our O was 28th in scoring. I can see us getting lucky at 11-5 only if Kelly and Randle El contribute significantly this year, along with Thomas, and our O line doesn't get busted up by the mid way point of the season. Hard for JC to get these guys the ball if he is getting sacked all the time.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

11-5? I hope so, but then reality will sink in by week 6-8 that we are average. Everyone is talking about our young Wrs and rightly so. They are a big wildcard in terms of if we are going to be successful. The prognosticators seem to think Thomas is going to breakout, but they are not too keen on the others. Also they do make a big point about our rather aged offensive line. Those guys collapsed last season, and the FO did not address this glaring need for an upgrade. Haynesworth ard Orakpo will bolster our D, but then again our D was rated 4th while our O was 28th in scoring. I can see us getting lucky at 11-5 only if Kelly and Randle El contribute significantly this year, along with Thomas, and our O line doesn't get busted up by the mid way point of the season. Hard for JC to get these guys the ball if he is getting sacked all the time.

Given our first 8 opponents, I doubt we will be shown as average; I expect that most media will be pointing at our 6-2 start last year, and comparing our 6-2 or 5-3 start to it, saying that we will probably collapse again. Again, our biggest difference is that instead of playing D's like Pitt and Balt, we will have Oakland, SD and Denver in the final 8. I am very optimistic, and our O-line, though not heavily improved like most of us hoped, will not see the likes of R Lewis, or T Polamalu coming hard on blitzes.
I will admit I always am optimistic at this time, but I believe there is the an absolute reason to be.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Given our first 8 opponents, I doubt we will be shown as average; I expect that most media will be pointing at our 6-2 start last year, and comparing our 6-2 or 5-3 start to it, saying that we will probably collapse again. Again, our biggest difference is that instead of playing D's like Pitt and Balt, we will have Oakland, SD and Denver in the final 8. I am very optimistic, and our O-line, though not heavily improved like most of us hoped, will not see the likes of R Lewis, or T Polamalu coming hard on blitzes.
I will admit I always am optimistic at this time, but I believe there is the an absolute reason to be.

WE will see. I used to be the 10-6 or 9-7 guy, but since Gibbs II these preseason rags have been pretty much right on. Just hope the Sporting news 4-12 prediction was just a sick joke.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

11-5? I hope so, but then reality will sink in by week 6-8 that we are average. Everyone is talking about our young Wrs and rightly so. They are a big wildcard in terms of if we are going to be successful. The prognosticators seem to think Thomas is going to breakout, but they are not too keen on the others. Also they do make a big point about our rather aged offensive line. Those guys collapsed last season, and the FO did not address this glaring need for an upgrade. Haynesworth ard Orakpo will bolster our D, but then again our D was rated 4th while our O was 28th in scoring. I can see us getting lucky at 11-5 only if Kelly and Randle El contribute significantly this year, along with Thomas, and our O line doesn't get busted up by the mid way point of the season. Hard for JC to get these guys the ball if he is getting sacked all the time.

AMEN!!! You guys have to understand that an average OLINE (MUCH LESS OFFENSE OVERALL) can't win you 11 games. Portis need's help because this is a 2 RB league now.. Our WR'S are not great, and JC is under alot of pressure this season.. I see 9-7 at best and 7-9 at worst.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

11-5? I hope so, but then reality will sink in by week 6-8 that we are average. Everyone is talking about our young Wrs and rightly so. They are a big wildcard in terms of if we are going to be successful. The prognosticators seem to think Thomas is going to breakout, but they are not too keen on the others. Also they do make a big point about our rather aged offensive line. Those guys collapsed last season, and the FO did not address this glaring need for an upgrade. Haynesworth ard Orakpo will bolster our D, but then again our D was rated 4th while our O was 28th in scoring. I can see us getting lucky at 11-5 only if Kelly and Randle El contribute significantly this year, along with Thomas, and our O line doesn't get busted up by the mid way point of the season. Hard for JC to get these guys the ball if he is getting sacked all the time.

Receivers are only as good as their QB. See Roddy White, Wes Welker, DeSean Jackson, the entire Saints receiving corps and all those scrubs Tom Brady made look good (Deion Branch, Troy Brown, etc.) before Moss and Welker got there.

Just felt like pushing buttons this morning

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Receivers are only as good as their QB. See Roddy White, Wes Welker, DeSean Jackson, the entire Saints receiving corps and all those scrubs Tom Brady made look good (Deion Branch, Troy Brown, etc.) before Moss and Welker got there.

Just felt like pushing buttons this morning

I agree, Moss has gamebreaking ability -see Dallas and Saints game- and Cooley is a great weapon at TE. so we shouldnt be struggling the way we are,someone else has to step up with those guys getting all of the attention. 13 pts a game over the 2nd half is terrible. and the oline had the same avg of sacks allowed per game over the 2nd half of the season if you dont count the Steeler game-7 sacks. in which they did play bad but it also skews the stats as a whole.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

I agree, Moss has gamebreaking ability -see Dallas and Saints game- and Cooley is a great weapon at TE. so we shouldnt be struggling the way we are,someone else has to step up with those guys getting all of the attention. 13 pts a game over the 2nd half is terrible. and the oline had the same avg of sacks allowed per game over the 2nd half of the season if you dont count the Steeler game-7 sacks. in which they did play bad but it also skews the stats as a whole.

Yeah, and there's no reason they shouldn't have done better against the niners when absolutely nothing was on the line. I can understand needing an above average to dominant O line to be successful against the best defenses in the league, but there are no excuses against the likes of the Bengals, Rams and 49ers. Beating a dead horse I know, but there were a lot of other teams with weak receivers and dinged up offensive lines that still managed to field a credible passing attack and put more than 12 points a game on the board. They'll be better this year.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Receivers are only as good as their QB. See Roddy White, Wes Welker, DeSean Jackson, the entire Saints receiving corps and all those scrubs Tom Brady made look good (Deion Branch, Troy Brown, etc.) before Moss and Welker got there.

Just felt like pushing buttons this morning

100% agree with you here. Sure WR's help out their QB, but a great WR will not help a qb like a great QB will help a WR.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skindeep

@NYG L
STL W
@DET W
TB W
@CAR W
KC W
PHIL W
-BYE-
@ ATL W
DEN W
@DAL L
@ PHI L
NO W
@OAK W
NYG W
DAL W
@ SD L

Thats how I see it. I split the east because its always a toss up. 11-5

I count 12 Ws and 4 Ls there.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skindeep

@NYG L
STL W
@DET W
TB W
@CAR W
KC W
PHIL W
-BYE-
@ ATL W
DEN W
@DAL L
@ PHI L
NO W
@OAK W
NYG W
DAL W
@ SD L

Thats how I see it. I split the east because its always a toss up.
11-5

Dude there is no way we will win 8 Games in a row.... I hope we will win atleast 9 games this season.. Philly and NY are both pretty good and Dallas has so much talent that they could be very good. I Say 9-7 at best and that's because of our D...

I Don't see our offense being much better.