Would you rather be 0-2

[Ferrari]

well I'm not sold on the pats I think people live in the past too often. They should've lost to the Bills and they got dominated by the jets(but they're still sb contenders). The reason why the Redskins never get national respect is because there own fans dont technically respect them. This is a NEW yr and I believe this was just our hiccup game. Defense great. 20 to 20 great. Turnovers great. Special Teams great. So we have 14wks left and all we need to worry about is rdzne offense. I'll take that

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Ferrari

well I'm not sold on the pats I think people live in the past too often. They should've lost to the Bills and they got dominated by the jets(but they're still sb contenders). The reason why the Redskins never get national respect is because there own fans dont technically respect them. This is a NEW yr and I believe this was just our hiccup game. Defense great. 20 to 20 great. Turnovers great. Special Teams great. So we have 14wks left and all we need to worry about is rdzne offense. I'll take that

Well I will say that the Redskins need to earn that national respect...the Pats get respect because of their Superbowl wins, and people don't criticize them much (although they were a McElvin fumble away from being 0-2).

I think a number of Skins fans love to hate the team. I mean there are posters that have nothing but negative things to say about the team.

Most people will say...well we won, it's a W, the team and the coaching staff have issues that need to be dealt soon if they want to continue to win, and this is how they should do it. And then there are the mindless rants about how we suck (and that's basically all they say).

[Zerohero]

Originally Posted by Ferrari

well I'm not sold on the pats I think people live in the past too often. They should've lost to the Bills and they got dominated by the jets(but they're still sb contenders). The reason why the Redskins never get national respect is because there own fans dont technically respect them. This is a NEW yr and I believe this was just our hiccup game. Defense great. 20 to 20 great. Turnovers great. Special Teams great. So we have 14wks left and all we need to worry about is rdzne offense. I'll take that

Thats all fine and dandy, how long have you been a fan? This is not a rusty start of a season, this is how we play regardless of our opponent. The patriots are proven winners, we haven't had a dominant year in 18 years. So when we beat one of the worst teams in the NFL 9-7 at home while completely healthy then yes there is going to be a lot of pessimism.

That being said, a win is a win. I guess. Right now every game in this next stretch of lesser opponents is must win.

Redskins have the greatest fans, we don't get respect because we probably have the worst primtime/monday night record in last 20 years. Lets blow some people out for a change, and start next week.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

I would rather be 0-2 if it got Zorn fired/demoted and replaced by Mike Holmgren.

Otherwise, no, 1-1 is better than 0-2. And, realistically, when we looked at the schedule when it was first released, atleast 90% of us thought we'd have a win over the Rams and a loss to the Giants at this point in the season. So, we're right where I, and most of us, thought we'd be - I just didnt think our offense would be this bad and Zorn would continue to challenge Steve Spurrier as the worst head coach the skins have had in my lifetime.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I would rather be 0-2 if it got Zorn fired/demoted and replaced by Mike Holmgren.

Otherwise, no, 1-1 is better than 0-2. And, realistically, when we looked at the schedule when it was first released, atleast 90% of us thought we'd have a win over the Rams and a loss to the Giants at this point in the season. So, we're right where I, and most of us, thought we'd be - I just didnt think our offense would be this bad and Zorn would continue to challenge Steve Spurrier as the worst head coach the skins have had in my lifetime.

There is no firing a head coach at this point and having anything good come out of it this year. Lets have a little faith and hope for the best. We are still in the playoff hunt.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I would rather be 0-2 if it got Zorn fired/demoted and replaced by Mike Holmgren.

Otherwise, no, 1-1 is better than 0-2. And, realistically, when we looked at the schedule when it was first released, atleast 90% of us thought we'd have a win over the Rams and a loss to the Giants at this point in the season. So, we're right where I, and most of us, thought we'd be - I just didnt think our offense would be this bad and Zorn would continue to challenge Steve Spurrier as the worst head coach the skins have had in my lifetime.

So at the end of the day, you're really not rooting for the Redskins to win any games this year? What's more important to you is that we get Zorn out of here as soon as possible to get Holmgren?

Wouldn't you rather we win and be successful with who we have?

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So at the end of the day, you're really not rooting for the Redskins to win any games this year? What's more important to you is that we get Zorn out of here as soon as possible to get Holmgren?

Wouldn't you rather we win and be successful with who we have?

This is the ultimate question. Do you want Zorn to go 9-7 even if that is his peak and he sucks the year after? Isn't that delaying the inevitable?

^That isn't my position but it is many people. I haven't fully lost faith in Zorn and Co. but they are on a red hot seat.

[dgack]

I'm surprised nobody has brought up parallels with the many Ravens teams that had anemic offenses and pretty much won due to defense and Matt Stover.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by dgack

I'm surprised nobody has brought up parallels with the many Ravens teams that had anemic offenses and pretty much won due to defense and Matt Stover.

As much as I tend to be optimistic (sp?) we don't have nearly as good of a defense as those Ravens.

[Trample the Elderly]

It's not an either or situation. Would you rather have a dirt sandwich or a kick to the groin? Me, I'll take steak & eggs thank you very much. Until these guys start shitting out Tiffany cuff-links then they're going to get ragged on, strait up. The fans are fed up.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

It's not an either or situation. Would you rather have a dirt sandwich or a kick to the groin? Me, I'll take steak & eggs thank you very much. Until these guys start shitting out Tiffany cuff-links then they're going to get ragged on, strait up. The fans are fed up.

My favorite post of all time! God this is funny some reason. Don't know why, but it is.

[BringBackJoeT]

Originally Posted by dgack

I'm surprised nobody has brought up parallels with the many Ravens teams that had anemic offenses and pretty much won due to defense and Matt Stover.

The Redskins had a very good defense and a poor offense last year and failed to make the playoffs, and so far this year, it looks as if the offense might have actually taken a step back, so I'm not surprised parallels to the successful Ravens teams are not being drawn.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by dgack

I'm surprised nobody has brought up parallels with the many Ravens teams that had anemic offenses and pretty much won due to defense and Matt Stover.

Because those teams absolutely terrorized the QB and we don't.

[dblanch66]

I'd rather not be 0-2. I'd rather not be in debt. I'd rather not be living surrounded by douchebags. Reality is, however, different than what I'd rather. So...1-1, I'll take it. If the Redskins lose to the Kittens (not a chance) I'll still watch the next game. I'm just glad to be able to watch Redskin football and hope the team competes and of course beats the snot out of Dallas later in the year. I'm sure Zorn feels pretty shitty about his horrible play calling too. Let's see if this motivates him to raise his game to a higher level or if it breaks him to the point where we need to find a new coach. I hope he finds his stride. I don't think this offense is as far away as some think. Hope.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by dgack

I'm surprised nobody has brought up parallels with the many Ravens teams that had anemic offenses and pretty much won due to defense and Matt Stover.

The redskins defense will need to start producing more sacks and turnovers that lead to points before those comparisons can start.