September unemployment is 9.8 percent

[GMScud]

I'm also thankful. I certainly am not taking it for granted. I spent a significant amount of time on the finance side of the mortgage industry, so when the bubble burst my job situation was tenuous at best. I was really stressed for a while, but I'm fortunate to have landed on my feet working for a phenomenal small company.

Working and living in Bethesda/Chevy Chase, it's easy to forget the economic climate around the rest of the country. It's so affluent, you just don't see the ill effects on a daily basis. When I was in Gainesville, Fl a few weeks ago it was really sad. So much dead real estate, and I saw a lot more homeless people than when I left that town two years ago. I also saw dozens of businesses that seemed to be doing fine a few years back that have shut their doors.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

As first down pointed out, it's been getting higher all summer, but your logic is not spot on either. When kids go back to school, they vacate positions that employers usually try to fill, also, no kid files at the unemployment office. To add to this, A LOT of companies are already gearing up for black friday and the holidays and starting to train employees to know how to service customers for the holidays...sure more will occur at the end of this month, but I am already prepared for my holidays as are several other companies and replaced our student employees.

About landscaping work and contract work, that is a valid argument if all summer wasn't declining in unemployment rate. So what is the current administration doing to fix this issue? Worst rate since 83 and predicted to hit 10% by end of the year! Instead, he's off in Denmark pitching for Chicago to get the olypics, which was an epic fail since we were predicted to rival Rio, and we were first one dismissed.
I think your best argument would have been backing it up with historical data at this time of year, not blindly supporting who you voted for. We ALL know if this was Bush, this would be a public uproar and cry for impeachment...but it's Obama, therefore he's untouchable.

Whoa calm down cowboy, I'm not making this a Bush/Obama deal at all. Just talking about the unemployment rate and I tossed out a thought off the top of my head.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Whoa calm down cowboy, I'm not making this a Bush/Obama deal at all. Just talking about the unemployment rate and I tossed out a thought off the top of my head.

Is it an insult for a redskin fan to call another redskin fan a cowboy?

[Dirtbag59]

The recession is apparently over for everyone except California who will continue to suffer for another two years. For everyone else it's the equivalent of getting over a long illness. Your body has finally rid itself of the virus but in the process you find yourself beaten up from being sick for so long, even though you're technically healthy again.

This is going to be a great time though for young people to get hired. The economy will complete it's turnaround and the baby boomers will soon be retiring. I can't wait.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Whoa calm down cowboy, I'm not making this a Bush/Obama deal at all. Just talking about the unemployment rate and I tossed out a thought off the top of my head.

COWBOY? LOL...think that's the first time I have ever been called that.

I understand you weren't making a direct connection to Bush / Obama, but if Bush was miraculously in office (obviously couldn't happen) then how would you respond to this?

[MTK]

My thought was not politically based in the least bit. Does it always have to be a Bush/Obama thing with some people?

But if you want to make it a Bush thing, let's be honest a big part of the reason we're in this situation is due to his administration.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by jsarno

COWBOY? LOL...think that's the first time I have ever been called that.

I understand you weren't making a direct connection to Bush / Obama, but if Bush was miraculously in office (obviously couldn't happen) then how would you respond to this?

This isn't a political thread, it's an economic one. As was Matty's response.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

This isn't a political thread, it's an economic one. As was Matty's response.

I agree but the damn liberals keep screwing it up

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

My thought was not politically based in the least bit. Does it always have to be a Bush/Obama thing with some people?

But if you want to make it a Bush thing, let's be honest a big part of the reason we're in this situation is due to his administration.

Sorry, Obama will always have ties to Bush, just like Clinton had to Bush...and you were pretty darn harsh on Bush, but awfully leinant on Obama...so yes, when you complained harshly about Bush's economic state, and his then "high unemployment rate", why would anyone think not to compare. If you were silent on that subject in the past, there would be no comparison now. You can't just say whatever you want and not be called on it when the guy you voted in is doing next to nothing. (which is no surprise given his lack of experience) The fact that you defend such a horrible unemployment rate and kind of pass it off, well we both know that would not be happening if this was even McCain.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

This isn't a political thread, it's an economic one. As was Matty's response.

How is it not? It's an unemployment rate, and it's directly related to Obama. That's like saying a Jason Campbell issue is not a football thread.

Again, I see what Matty was trying to say, but we all don't all of sudden forget the plethera of attacks on Bush by Matty. Do you guys think you get a pass on any attacks on Obama and what you said about the previous administration just goes away? I am still astounded at the fact that even you attacked Bush about his national debt, yet Obama over quadruples it and you are miraculously silent??? You don't find that odd?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

This isn't a political thread, it's an economic one. As was Matty's response.

There's no difference to some people.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Sorry, Obama will always have ties to Bush, just like Clinton had to Bush...and you were pretty darn harsh on Bush, but awfully leinant on Obama...so yes, when you complained harshly about Bush's economic state, and his then "high unemployment rate", why would anyone think not to compare. If you were silent on that subject in the past, there would be no comparison now. You can't just say whatever you want and not be called on it when the guy you voted in is doing next to nothing. (which is no surprise given his lack of experience) The fact that you defend such a horrible unemployment rate and kind of pass it off, well we both know that would not be happening if this was even McCain.

I need to correct myself...he's not doing next to nothing, he's digging America in an even BIGGER hole, and making horrible decisions over and over. He's a joke of a president and well on his way to the worst we have seen in recent memory. At this pace, he will go down as the worst ever unless he suddenly grows some advisors and turns this around.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

How is it not? It's an unemployment rate, and it's directly related to Obama. That's like saying a Jason Campbell issue is not a football thread.

Again, I see what Matty was trying to say, but we all don't all of sudden forget the plethera of attacks on Bush by Matty. Do you guys think you get a pass on any attacks on Obama and what you said about the previous administration just goes away? I am still astounded at the fact that even you attacked Bush about his national debt, yet Obama over quadruples it and you are miraculously silent??? You don't find that odd?

You don't even want to talk about the issue, you just want to point fingers.

Just never mind, seriously.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

There's no difference to some people.

HAHAHA...then what would you catagorize it as?

Unemployment rate IS POLITICAL people. WOW...to even suggest otherwise is well, blind.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You don't even want to talk about the issue, you just want to point fingers.

Just never mind, seriously.

Check and mate.

Thank you sir...of course you can't defend the issue, there is no defense. So you will continue to blindly support who you voted for, and the ones that see Obama for who he is will continue to notice.

I guess the unemployment rate will just continue to spike, and you will continue to care less as to why.

Maybe you should continue to stay in the football sections, at least there you have valid arguments behind your comments. Been enjoying most of your comments there even though some oppose my views, but I like that you at least defend what you believe. But again, how do you defend the undefendable?

I will cease to comment on here, cause I'd rather the warpath know about his horrible unemployment rate, then the thread be closed because it is calling Obama out.