Analisis, And Then Some!

joethiesmanfan · 10-11-2004, 09:45 AM

Offis those are harsh words. you dissing Brunnell , Portis , Vick and everybody!!!!! We have been in several different offensive and defensive schemes the last few years Peyton Manning has been in one for 6 years they spend all their money on his offensive line tightends and receivers but they have no defense. give it some time but this year the redskins suck. some years they suck be a fan the days of Riggo are gone.

joethiesmanfan · 10-11-2004, 09:50 AM

Offis those are harsh words. you dissing Brunnell , Portis , Vick and everybody!!!!! We have been in several different offensive and defensive schemes the last few years Peyton Manning has been in one for 6 years they spend all their money on his offensive line tightends and receivers but they have no defense. give it some time but this year the redskins suck. some years they suck be a fan the days of Riggo are gone.

celts32 · 10-11-2004, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Morton has 8 guys on top of him by the time the ball gets there. I prefer a faircatch to a fumble! He also made a great play when he got us out to the 40 with the stretch -n- catch.

Unfortunately Chad's head's up play yesterday was the best thing he has done in a Redskins uniform. A complete waste of money.

aehs77 · 10-11-2004, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

a lot like Vick, I ask you, take away Vick's speed, and mobility, and who would want him?

Vick has got one of the strongest arms in the league. he hasnt been running this year and he has not been extremly effective because he is learning a new system. but there 4 and one. i'd take that

Daseal · 10-11-2004, 03:35 PM

What about the run-back last year. In order for your return man to return, you need to BLOCK him!

Hogskin · 10-11-2004, 04:08 PM

PORTIS is not the problem with the running game. We FINALLY saw a few passes into the flat last night. A couple had moderate success. The other two had great potential, but were totally botched by a bad pass, and a late pass (due to a bobbled snap by Brunell). On the rest of the plays going into the line, he either had a guy on him immediately after getting the ball, or there was ABSOLUTELY no space to run anywhere.

As far as Portis breaking tackles, you could not be more wrong. HIS method of "breaking" tackles is exactly like Barry Sanders. He "breaks" them by avoiding them with jukes and spin moves. I'll take that in a RB ANY time. Gibbs needs to get him into a situation where his massive skills have a CHANCE to be used. Then he will pay off big time.

Daseal · 10-11-2004, 04:16 PM

Amen, Hogskin.

offiss · 10-11-2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hogskin

PORTIS is not the problem with the running game. We FINALLY saw a few passes into the flat last night. A couple had moderate success. The other two had great potential, but were totally botched by a bad pass, and a late pass (due to a bobbled snap by Brunell). On the rest of the plays going into the line, he either had a guy on him immediately after getting the ball, or there was ABSOLUTELY no space to run anywhere.

As far as Portis breaking tackles, you could not be more wrong. HIS method of "breaking" tackles is exactly like Barry Sanders. He "breaks" them by avoiding them with jukes and spin moves. I'll take that in a RB ANY time. Gibbs needs to get him into a situation where his massive skills have a CHANCE to be used. Then he will pay off big time.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, don't compare Portis to Sander's again!

denim_monger · 10-11-2004, 04:32 PM

what is analisis??

sounds like some kinda porn thing or somethin

LOL

offiss · 10-11-2004, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by denim_monger

what is analisis??

sounds like some kinda porn thing or somethin

LOL

You know what I did that once before, you think I would learn.

of coarse I was describing the way we have been playing. lol

Hogskin · 10-11-2004, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, don't compare Portis to Sander's again!

Portis' STYLE is VERY similar to Barry Sanders' STYLE!!!!

Portis' STYLE is VERY similar to Barry Sanders' STYLE!!!!

Portis' STYLE is VERY similar to Barry Sanders' STYLE!!!!

Portis' STYLE is VERY similar to Barry Sanders' STYLE!!!!

Portis' STYLE is VERY similar to Barry Sanders' STYLE!!!!

Portis' STYLE is VERY similar to Barry Sanders' STYLE!!!!

But you are right. Portis had a MUCH lower percentage of plays that lost yardage. Now, if he can just get back to having a line that is only as bad a DETROIT's at run blocking (we are far worse), then he will be back on track!!

MTK · 10-11-2004, 05:17 PM

The blame for our running woes has to go to the line AND to Portis.

He's just so indecisive right now, even when there's a hole he seems tentative to hit it, it looks like he's thinking there's a better option and instead of believing what he's seeing he keeps looking, and looking.

They mentioned something like that during the game last night, Portis said he's thinking too much right now and not just running.

Hogskin · 10-11-2004, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The blame for our running woes has to go to the line AND to Portis.

He's just so indecisive right now, even when there's a hole he seems tentative to hit it, it looks like he's thinking there's a better option and instead of believing what he's seeing he keeps looking, and looking.

They mentioned something like that during the game last night, Portis said he's thinking too much right now and not just running.

That's RIGHT, Matty. I forgot about that. And the amazing thing about that was that he was also purported to have said He was being overcoached by Byner, and THAT was his explanation for the cause of the problem. Someone here (don't remember who) suggested that last week, and it was widely poo-poo'ed. Interesting.

P.S. offiss - I was just funnin' in that earlier post!!

SkinsRock · 10-11-2004, 05:22 PM

That's because he's doing what everyone is saying he should do and trying to be more patient....but that's not his style of running. I think eventually, Gibbs will find a happy medium in terms of play calling to suit Portis' style and talents, while keeping the "power running" aspect.....eventually. Hopefully soon!

offiss · 10-11-2004, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hogskin

Portis' STYLE is VERY similar to Barry Sanders' STYLE!!!!

Portis' STYLE is VERY similar to Barry Sanders' STYLE!!!!

Portis' STYLE is VERY similar to Barry Sanders' STYLE!!!!

Portis' STYLE is VERY similar to Barry Sanders' STYLE!!!!

Portis' STYLE is VERY similar to Barry Sanders' STYLE!!!!

Portis' STYLE is VERY similar to Barry Sanders' STYLE!!!!

But you are right. Portis had a MUCH lower percentage of plays that lost yardage. Now, if he can just get back to having a line that is only as bad a DETROIT's at run blocking (we are far worse), then he will be back on track!!

Again stop comparing Portis to Sander's, and now I will tell you why, Sander's used to make something out of nothing all the time, Portis makes nothing out of nothing all the time, blocking, or no blocking, sander's would get his yard's, probably the best ever at that, maybe W Payton would come close, we have seen what Portis does without blocking, stop listening to these pre game show's trying to market, and promote, NFL player's, remember this is an election year, I have seen Barry Sander's, and I have watched him run, Mr. Portis, you are no Barry Sander's!

10-11-2004, 04:08 PM	#21
Hogskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hartselle, Alabama Age: 83 Posts: 659	PORTIS is not the problem with the running game. We FINALLY saw a few passes into the flat last night. A couple had moderate success. The other two had great potential, but were totally botched by a bad pass, and a late pass (due to a bobbled snap by Brunell). On the rest of the plays going into the line, he either had a guy on him immediately after getting the ball, or there was ABSOLUTELY no space to run anywhere. As far as Portis breaking tackles, you could not be more wrong. HIS method of "breaking" tackles is exactly like Barry Sanders. He "breaks" them by avoiding them with jukes and spin moves. I'll take that in a RB ANY time. Gibbs needs to get him into a situation where his massive skills have a CHANCE to be used. Then he will pay off big time. __________________ John Shaffer National Fantasy Sports Leagues, Inc. Home of "The BEST Game In Town" since 1990

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10-11-2004, 09:45 AM	#16
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Offis those are harsh words. you dissing Brunnell , Portis , Vick and everybody!!!!! We have been in several different offensive and defensive schemes the last few years Peyton Manning has been in one for 6 years they spend all their money on his offensive line tightends and receivers but they have no defense. give it some time but this year the redskins suck. some years they suck be a fan the days of Riggo are gone.

10-11-2004, 09:50 AM	#17
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Offis those are harsh words. you dissing Brunnell , Portis , Vick and everybody!!!!! We have been in several different offensive and defensive schemes the last few years Peyton Manning has been in one for 6 years they spend all their money on his offensive line tightends and receivers but they have no defense. give it some time but this year the redskins suck. some years they suck be a fan the days of Riggo are gone.

10-11-2004, 03:35 PM	#20
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	What about the run-back last year. In order for your return man to return, you need to BLOCK him!

10-11-2004, 04:16 PM	#22
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Amen, Hogskin.

10-11-2004, 04:32 PM	#24
denim_monger Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: AMERICA BITCH!!! Posts: 122	what is analisis?? sounds like some kinda porn thing or somethin LOL

10-11-2004, 05:17 PM	#27
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	The blame for our running woes has to go to the line AND to Portis. He's just so indecisive right now, even when there's a hole he seems tentative to hit it, it looks like he's thinking there's a better option and instead of believing what he's seeing he keeps looking, and looking. They mentioned something like that during the game last night, Portis said he's thinking too much right now and not just running.

10-11-2004, 05:22 PM	#29
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	That's because he's doing what everyone is saying he should do and trying to be more patient....but that's not his style of running. I think eventually, Gibbs will find a happy medium in terms of play calling to suit Portis' style and talents, while keeping the "power running" aspect.....eventually. Hopefully soon!

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