How many starting RBs are worse than Portis?

[Zerohero]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I think this is Portis' last year with the Redskins.

I pray there is a major cleaning house this offseason.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I think this is Portis' last year with the Redskins.

Its much easier to replace a starting RB (Portis) than a starting QB (JC). I agree this could be Portis's last season. If we got a young stud RB out of the this coming draft in the late rounds that could extend Portis career. Betts is a zero he must go.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

There are a lot of good rbs in the nfl, and most teams have one that is in their prime. CP isn't even a top 20 back at this point. To his credit, he can still block very well, but even in that dept. he seems less tenacious than in years past.

He is 7th in the league in rushing!
We don't ever have a lead in the 4th quarter so we can't pound the ball and get him more yards and we can't sustain drives or convert 3rd downs yet he is still 7th in the league.

He's been running through the same gaps on the left side of the field because we can't create holes on the right side. Defenses know this and he is still 7th in rushing. He isn't the gamebreaker AP or Chris Johnson is but he is still our best offensive weapon, Sorry mancrush cooley fans.


There is not a runningback in the league that would be successful behind this offensive line!

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by jamf

He is 7th in the league in rushing!
We don't ever have a lead in the 4th quarter so we can't pound the ball and get him more yards and we can't sustain drives or convert 3rd downs yet he is still 7th in the league.

He's been running through the same gaps on the left side of the field because we can't create holes on the right side. Defenses know this and he is still 7th in rushing. He isn't the gamebreaker AP or Chris Johnson is but he is still our best offensive weapon, Sorry mancrush cooley fans.


There is not a runningback in the league that would be successful behind this offensive line!

Stats aren't the whole story...he averages 75 yards per game.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

Stats aren't the whole story...he averages 75 yards per game.

Which is IMPRESSIVE behind our line with your avatar calling plays.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by jamf

He is 7th in the league in rushing!
We don't ever have a lead in the 4th quarter so we can't pound the ball and get him more yards and we can't sustain drives or convert 3rd downs yet he is still 7th in the league.

He's been running through the same gaps on the left side of the field because we can't create holes on the right side. Defenses know this and he is still 7th in rushing. He isn't the gamebreaker AP or Chris Johnson is but he is still our best offensive weapon, Sorry mancrush cooley fans.


There is not a runningback in the league that would be successful behind this offensive line!

If you want to rely on stats, keep in mind that we haven't had a bye week & many others have, so his #s are higher due to an extra game. He's also been getting 95% of the carries, whereas other teams often give a backup 10 carries or so.

He started to come to life in the TB game, but even then he fell down a no. of times too easily. I know this o line sucks, but even poor lines open holes when the play call is right & the defense is out of position. That was the case w/the 78 yarder. He didn't have to break any tackles or make any moves, just run through the hole. IMO, he's missed a no. of holes where he might've gotten another 2 yards or so. Good rb's will make something usually, even if it's just a couple of yards. He hasn't this year.

[freddyg12]

pretty harsh assessment, but I have been pretty critical of CP the last few games. During each game he's missed holes totally, loses his balance & takes too long to cut. Remember how sharp his cutbacks used to be? Now he slows down to a studder step before changing directions.

I wish he could finish his career here, be a 3rd down/backup, but he's already a problem in his current role. Don't see him adjusting to a lesser role yet. I fear that things might get ugly between he & the skins (DS) before it's over.

[firstdown]

I just think its very hard to tell if CP has slowed or the O just gives him no lanes to run through. It seems he is always fighting to get past the line where other RB are fighting to get past LB and thats the big problem.

[Monkeydad]

Put any RB behind this O-Line, with Zorn calling plays...and see if they can produce.


Portis just had the longest run of his career yesterday, he still has it. He's the best blocking RB in the NFL and can take more punishment than anyone...look how guys like Parker and Westbrook, even Tomlinson are always getting hurt. Portis plays through injuries and can still be successful if he gets any blocking whatsoever and there's not a monkey calling the same stretch running play in every crucial situation.

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by Buster

Put any RB behind this O-Line, with Zorn calling plays...and see if they can produce.


Portis just had the longest run of his career yesterday, he still has it. He's the best blocking RB in the NFL and can take more punishment than anyone...look how guys like Parker and Westbrook, even Tomlinson are always getting hurt. Portis plays through injuries and can still be successful if he gets any blocking whatsoever and there's not a monkey calling the same stretch running play in every crucial situation.

I think the opposite is true...put any other RB behind this line with this coach and they get WAY more yards. Felix Jones, T. Choice, Bradshaw, J. Norwood, J. Stewart, D. Ward....any of them. He leaves yards on the field, case closed. And Im sick of hearing about how good of a blocker he is...he isn't getting paid what he is getting paid to just be a good blocker.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

I think the opposite is true...put any other RB behind this line with this coach and they get WAY more yards. Felix Jones, T. Choice, Bradshaw, J. Norwood, J. Stewart, D. Ward....any of them. He leaves yards on the field, case closed. And Im sick of hearing about how good of a blocker he is...he isn't getting paid what he is getting paid to just be a good blocker.

His blocking saves our QB's head several times a game, so yes, it is important.

Explain "leaves yards on the field" and how another lesser-talented RB could have more success than Portis with this joke of an O-line. I'd love to heard it, Mr. Zorn avatar.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Buster

His blocking saves our QB's head several times a game, so yes, it is important.

Explain "leaves yards on the field" and how another lesser-talented RB could have more success than Portis with this joke of an O-line. I'd love to heard it, Mr. Zorn avatar.

I agree that he "leaves yards on the field" - there have been a no. of carries in which he's run into the back of a linemen, which is often not his fault cause those guys are getting pushed back, but how he responds is his fault. He has often responded by trying to bull ahead, rather than making a quick move to either side & forging ahead. I'm certainly not suggesting that he try & bounce outside, cause he just doesn't have the takeoff he once did. I just think he's not seeing cutback lanes & getting what is there.

Part of it may be his lack of practice/conditioning. Part of it has to be that he is old, beat up & lacks the quickness needed to be decisive the way a rb must be. At his best his play inspired the team, now his play more or less exemplifies the team.

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by Buster

His blocking saves our QB's head several times a game, so yes, it is important.

Explain "leaves yards on the field" and how another lesser-talented RB could have more success than Portis with this joke of an O-line. I'd love to heard it, Mr. Zorn avatar.

there are holes/daylight that he doesn't hit or doesn't see thus doesn't get the yards that are available on those plays.

The 78 yard run is a perfect example....there were 9 yards "left on the field" on that play that he didn't get. Every other starting RB in the league, making as much money as 26 scores on that play... not even a question.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

there are holes/daylight that he doesn't hit or doesn't see thus doesn't get the yards that are available on those plays.

The 78 yard run is a perfect example....there were 9 yards "left on the field" on that play that he didn't get. Every other starting RB in the league, making as much money as 26 scores on that play... not even a question.

I agree CP should have score with 1 man to beat. It should be noted that Sellers should have knocked little ass Mike Brown on the ground. Instead Sellers falls and Mike Brown makes the tackle. Thats how the season goes for team playing poorly on offense. We have the Red Zone Diease.

[hail_2_da_skins]

I've said it before and I repeat. Clinton Portis has Shaun Alexander disease. He runs untils he anticipates contact and then falls down or run out of bounds. The 78 yard run is a prime example. Practically every back in the league would have scored on that play. When the play first started, Portis did his normal move, running up the back of his blockers, not cutting to daylight. Unfortunately the defense provided no resistance, so he had to run up field. He had one defender to beat and a blocker in front. How come he can't set up the block and beat one defender or cut back and out run the defender? Portis runs like an old back...Shaun Alexander disease.