Mosely: Campbell to start

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

Campbell shouldn't get all the blame...it's not like if you put Peyton Manning behind that offensive line, he would be putting up incredible numbers either, probably not that much better either

So Campbell = Manning?

Is Peyton Manning better than Aaron Rodgers, because Rodgers has been sacked 25 times this year. Wanna know his numbers?

8 TDs, 2 INTs, 1500 yards and a 104.1 QB rating.

JC has been sacked 14 times. So let's use the poor coaching and bad WRs excuse instead to explain why JC would be a Hall of Famer with a different team.

[skins89moss]

Well JC should start the game but if he plays poorly they can always put TC in the game. If TC comes in the game its not going well for us. TC should get a few reps this week just in case but JC is our best opts right now. I would not want to be a QB behind our no run blocking, pass protecting sorry ass line. Instead of the Hogs we got slice bacon.

[DBUCHANON101]

I wouldnt say our line is the worst in the league, but even if it was its on the Coaches to adjust. Big Ben got killed last yr and didnt have a run game, yet he still made plays and won the SB. A Rodgers has been sacked 11 more times than JC and he still has more yds and td's with less picks. Hell Farve has been sacked the same amount as JC and has double the td's with less picks. Bottomline you can still have good numbers on offense with a banged up oline. The WCO is supposed to help teams with subpar Olines. Isnt it?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

I wouldnt say our line is the worst in the league, but even if it was its on the Coaches to adjust. Big Ben got killed last yr and didnt have a run game, yet he still made plays and won the SB. A Rodgers has been sacked 11 more times than JC and he still has more yds and td's with less picks. Hell Farve has been sacked the same amount as JC and has double the td's with less picks. Bottomline you can still have good numbers on offense with a banged up oline. The WCO is supposed to help teams with subpar Olines. Isnt it?

Cards made it to the SB as well... 2 teams with suspect O-Lines

Gotta be tough and stand in there, move around through it

They could help with more roll outs, etc though... would probably have him roll to the wrong side and right into a sack though

[PortimusPrime]

I think calling this season a loss is a little premature.

Yes, we have lost to some of the worst teams in the league this year making us the worst team in the league but plenty of positives can come from this year.

I think that if this team can play hard and rally for the remainder of the season we could get a big boost to morale and show the rest of the league that just because you're down it does not mean you are out.

Hearing the fans boo the team makes me sick to my stomach because if they ever needed fan support from us its now. Do not rule this team out, their record isn't that horrible and its a long season.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by PortimusPrime

I think calling this season a loss is a little premature.

Yes, we have lost to some of the worst teams in the league this year making us the worst team in the league but plenty of positives can come from this year.

I think that if this team can play hard and rally for the remainder of the season we could get a big boost to morale and show the rest of the league that just because you're down it does not mean you are out.

Hearing the fans boo the team makes me sick to my stomach because if they ever needed fan support from us its now. Do not rule this team out, their record isn't that horrible and its a long season.

I agree. Playing hard is the key, because the other 31 teams don't really try all that much. We just need to play HARD! Why didn't we think of that sooner? Coach hard, play hard... it's so simple. Talent, Competence and brains be damned. Just go HARD and everything will be alright!

[PortimusPrime]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

I agree. Playing hard is the key, because the other 31 teams don't really try all that much. We just need to play HARD! Why didn't we think of that sooner? Coach hard, play hard... it's so simple. Talent, Competence and brains be damned. Just go HARD and everything will be alright!

Agreed, we have absolutely no talent on our team. What was I thinking? I apologize, I should have thought before I said anything. Its not like we are the fifth ranked defense in the league right now. Its not like Clinton Portis is a top ten back in the league right now

I'm such an idiot. How dare I try to get people to rally behind the team instead of wearing bags on their heads? How dare a team have a bad year? Don't they know they have to be on top of their game and if they lose four games then the season is a loss.

[Chevy13]

should be interesting to see what they can do the next game with a neutered coach and a young QB who was benched the previous week... maybe this will be what finally works!

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Chevy13

should be interesting to see what they can do the next game with a neutered coach and a young QB who was benched the previous week... maybe this will be what finally works!

Who's the young QB we're starting? Did we sign someone new? JC is in the upper half of all NFL QBs in terms of starts, so you can't be talking about him.

[Chevy13]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Who's the young QB we're starting? Did we sign someone new? JC is in the upper half of all NFL QBs in terms of starts, so you can't be talking about him.

Sorry 27 just seems young to me but I guess your right in NFL years he's not very young but he still plays like it

[MonkFan4Life]

Originally Posted by Chevy13

should be interesting to see what they can do the next game with a neutered coach and a young QB who was benched the previous week... maybe this will be what finally works!

First, all Head Coaches don't call their own plays. They manage the team which is what Zorn is still doing. He's still the HC, just not the HC;OC; QB's Coach; Cheerleader; Janitor; Yoga Instructor; Lifeguard; etc...

Second, Jason isn't young anymore. 5 years in the league, 3 1/2 as a starting QB. You contract is up after this year. You're a vet homie. However, it says alot when we still talk about him like he's in his first year.

Once he starts calling his own protections then we can start tipping suds.

[Chevy13]

Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life

First, all Head Coaches don't call their own plays. They manage the team which is what Zorn is still doing. He's still the HC, just not the HC;OC; QB's Coach; Cheerleader; Janitor; Yoga Instructor; Lifeguard; etc...

Second, Jason isn't young anymore. 5 years in the league, 3 1/2 as a starting QB. You contract is up after this year. You're a vet homie. However, it says alot when we still talk about him like he's in his first year.

Once he starts calling his own protections then we can start tipping suds.

First, I don't think it's the same for a coach to not call the plays than the embarrassment a coach must go through by getting his playcalling rights taken away (we all know it's really because of his inadequacy in this area). The players will probably lose even more respect for the guy (whatever respect he had left) so when I say "neutered" coach it's not just because he doesn't call the plays... Just because he's the HC doesn't give him much respect on this team no matter if he still "manages" this team or not.

Second, I agree I really wasn't thinking "NFL young" I was thinking "27 years old young" and yeah sometimes I forget he's not a "young QB" when I watch him play

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

I wouldnt say our line is the worst in the league, but even if it was its on the Coaches to adjust. Big Ben got killed last yr and didnt have a run game, yet he still made plays and won the SB. A Rodgers has been sacked 11 more times than JC and he still has more yds and td's with less picks. Hell Farve has been sacked the same amount as JC and has double the td's with less picks. Bottomline you can still have good numbers on offense with a banged up oline. The WCO is supposed to help teams with subpar Olines. Isnt it?

Well JC is not as talented as Big Ben or Favre and the team should recognize that and fix the o-line (since it is also hurting the running game).

[tryfuhl]

Kind of interesting interview:

http://cstvpodcast.cstv.com.edgesuit...125-1256035302

Campbell feels like he's been held back, says there are def plenty of issues going on with the team (obviously), asked if he had any trust left with anybody on the team.. said he trusts God but has some great teammates.. people will always talk behind your back though

said it's tough, the situation with Sherman Lewis -- Lewis must be nervous with a spotlight on him, tough situation for Zorn, they took his pride away.. Campbell talked to Lewis Monday briefly but that's all that he's talked with him

says distractions from media dealing with the confusion at the FO etc could be effecting the team on-field when asked, but could only answer for himself

said team has to put the previous games to the side, make sure Monday is a new start and not the same old stuff, says that O can feel like everything has to be too perfect that it can keep them from just making good plays, because a handful of plays can make a big difference.. so they need to get the need for perfection out their head and play a bit looser, have more fun and confidence and let go of the tension, don't let a bad play or people in your ears keep you from doing what you can do

said he's not thinking about the contract, wishes the situation was better but it isn't, just has to make it happen on the field and get wins

lavar asked if campbell was playing more to not make mistakes and less to get a win, if he felt he needs to just let it go and sling it and not worry about being benched.. JC said he hit it on the head and sometimes he feels he needs to play too perfectly and that they already have benched him at this point, so his next process is to just go play ball and not worry about what they're going to do with him at this point (hopefully he follows this), he said not to play sloppy and not worry about progressions, but ease up and play his game.. everyone seems to have answers but do the people criticizing have the heart to be in his position... got a little ranty here about being criticized "I'm moving forward and it's time to play ball"

[MonkFan4Life]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Kind of interesting interview:

http://cstvpodcast.cstv.com.edgesuit...125-1256035302

Campbell feels like he's been held back, says there are def plenty of issues going on with the team (obviously), asked if he had any trust left with anybody on the team.. said he trusts God but has some great teammates.. people will always talk behind your back though

said it's tough, the situation with Sherman Lewis -- Lewis must be nervous with a spotlight on him, tough situation for Zorn, they took his pride away.. Campbell talked to Lewis Monday briefly but that's all that he's talked with him

says distractions from media dealing with the confusion at the FO etc could be effecting the team on-field when asked, but could only answer for himself

said team has to put the previous games to the side, make sure Monday is a new start and not the same old stuff, says that O can feel like everything has to be too perfect that it can keep them from just making good plays, because a handful of plays can make a big difference.. so they need to get the need for perfection out their head and play a bit looser, have more fun and confidence and let go of the tension, don't let a bad play or people in your ears keep you from doing what you can do

said he's not thinking about the contract, wishes the situation was better but it isn't, just has to make it happen on the field and get wins

lavar asked if campbell was playing more to not make mistakes and less to get a win, if he felt he needs to just let it go and sling it and not worry about being benched.. JC said he hit it on the head and sometimes he feels he needs to play too perfectly and that they already have benched him at this point, so his next process is to just go play ball and not worry about what they're going to do with him at this point (hopefully he follows this), he said not to play sloppy and not worry about progressions, but ease up and play his game.. everyone seems to have answers but do the people criticizing have the heart to be in his position... got a little ranty here about being criticized "I'm moving forward and it's time to play ball"

Same shit just another interview. He's been saying for years that he just needs to go and sling it. Since Al Saunders was here he's been spouting that bull. Two different systems, the same results for both. Piss poor play. Thank you to DBUCHANON, and 44Deezel for seeing the light. For those of you yelling about how Peyton couldn't survive behind this line guess what Peyton does that Jason refuses to ? Call his own protection schemes. A big part of playing Qb now is outsmarting the opposing D. Do you ever see the chess match between Jason and the MLB ? Have you ever seen it. Have you ever seen Jason change something up at the line. Oh my fault,... they don't let him ? REALLY ? This is the only place where they don't let a QB audible? I don't buy it one bit. He can audible he chooses not to. HE checked to a run play on 3rd and 8 against the Giants. HE called a 4th quarter timeout against Carolina because he didn't like the play, why not change it.

He's backed on Lavar and Dukes' show of anger and hate towards Danny because he does interviews there. I mean come on now. If you watch football you can see that there is a distinct difference between him and the good QB's in the league. I love this team and I am a fan but I've got to call it like I see it.

Danny was right, and sadly Josh McDaniels was right too !