What do you want to see in a new CBA?

GTripp0012 · 03-02-2010, 12:48 PM

No cap. No floor. If you want to luxury tax the big spenders, go right ahead. I doubt they care.

I don't know if I'd like to have players be under team control for 6 seasons like they are in baseball, but maybe after this year, I'll support that idea as well. The difference is that in baseball, you can develop a player slowly before his major league clock starts at an advanced age. In football, a guy is pretty much as talented as he is going to get when he arrives in the league, at that point, it's about trying to develop useful skills before he gets costly.

Monkeydad · 03-02-2010, 12:51 PM

Rookie cap or pay scale is the most urgent need. Other than that...don't really care.

FRPLG · 03-02-2010, 01:35 PM

Keep the franchise tag in essentially the same form but change one key detail. Use current year salaries of players rather than last year. The franchise tag was meant to keep the big name guys from hightailing it. But because the salaries have gotten disparate within position groups we are now seeing kickers getting tagged. Ridiculous. Janikowski gets a insane deal but none of the other kickers can take advantage of his contract moving the market because the teams can just tag them and use last year's salaries for the averages.

dmek25 · 03-02-2010, 02:21 PM

anyone that wants to compare that half assed salary cap they have in baseball needs to have their head examined. unless your ready for the same teams in the playoffs year after year. the whole infra structure of MLB needs trashed

Dirtbag59 · 03-02-2010, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

anyone that wants to compare that half assed salary cap they have in baseball needs to have their head examined. unless your ready for the same teams in the playoffs year after year. the whole infra structure of MLB needs trashed

The numbers say otherwise. The difference is in baseball if a team sucks you have to watch it for a 162 games. In football if a team sucks you only see it 16 times a year. Plus with the NFL draft teams get contributions from rookies much quicker then they would in baseball.

saden1 · 03-02-2010, 02:48 PM

Less money for rookies and I'm good to go.

WaldSkins · 03-02-2010, 04:41 PM

1.)Rookie pay scale
2.)Eliminate the Franchise Tag
3.)If a player is cut and or suspended because of a DUI/Gun Charge/Dog Fighting crime/etc, the team should not be affected(Cap Wise)
4.) If a player is traded his new team takes on the salary and bonuses.

RedskinMike · 03-02-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

1.)Rookie pay scale
2.)Eliminate the Franchise Tag
3.)If a player is cut and or suspended because of a DUI/Gun Charge/Dog Fighting crime/etc, the team should not be affected(Cap Wise)
4.) If a player is traded his new team takes on the salary and bonuses.

I disagree with you here. Players who end up in these situations normally have character issues. Any team that signs or drafts a guy like that should have to deal with the consequences. If a player dies I think there should be no cap ramifications.

Dirtbag59 · 03-02-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

1.)Rookie pay scale
2.)Eliminate the Franchise Tag
3.)If a player is cut and or suspended because of a DUI/Gun Charge/Dog Fighting crime/etc, the team should not be affected(Cap Wise)
4.) If a player is traded his new team takes on the salary and bonuses.

I kind of disagree on this one. I mean I know the team should only be so responsible for a players conduct off the field, but if you do that you'll have more teams taking chances on questionable character because of a lack of liability. You'd risk turning the NFL into the NBA.

BigHairedAristocrat · 03-03-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I kind of disagree on this one. I mean I know the team should only be so responsible for a players conduct off the field, but if you do that you'll have more teams taking chances on questionable character because of a lack of liability. You'd risk turning the NFL into the NBA.

i agree. i think everything should be done to give teams motivation to ensure their players behave themselves.

CrazyCanuck · 03-04-2010, 02:14 PM

Keep the cap, save my job!

tryfuhl · 03-03-2010, 01:19 AM

There are a lot of people that practice in this and I won't pretend to understand everything that they do.

Rookie pay scale balanced by incentives based on performance is the biggest thing that I'm worried about

Retiree benefits tied to your salary would be great too.. so if some guy made on average 3 a year and another guy made 2 a year.. the 3 per year guy would be expected to contribute more to his (somewhat matched?) benefits

03-02-2010, 12:48 PM	#1
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: What do you want to see in a new CBA? No cap. No floor. If you want to luxury tax the big spenders, go right ahead. I doubt they care. I don't know if I'd like to have players be under team control for 6 seasons like they are in baseball, but maybe after this year, I'll support that idea as well. The difference is that in baseball, you can develop a player slowly before his major league clock starts at an advanced age. In football, a guy is pretty much as talented as he is going to get when he arrives in the league, at that point, it's about trying to develop useful skills before he gets costly. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

03-02-2010, 12:51 PM	#2
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 47 Posts: 17,460	Re: What do you want to see in a new CBA? Rookie cap or pay scale is the most urgent need. Other than that...don't really care. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

03-02-2010, 01:35 PM	#3
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 10,164	Re: What do you want to see in a new CBA? Keep the franchise tag in essentially the same form but change one key detail. Use current year salaries of players rather than last year. The franchise tag was meant to keep the big name guys from hightailing it. But because the salaries have gotten disparate within position groups we are now seeing kickers getting tagged. Ridiculous. Janikowski gets a insane deal but none of the other kickers can take advantage of his contract moving the market because the teams can just tag them and use last year's salaries for the averages.

03-02-2010, 02:21 PM	#4
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: What do you want to see in a new CBA? anyone that wants to compare that half assed salary cap they have in baseball needs to have their head examined. unless your ready for the same teams in the playoffs year after year. the whole infra structure of MLB needs trashed __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

03-02-2010, 02:48 PM	#6
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: What do you want to see in a new CBA? Less money for rookies and I'm good to go. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

03-02-2010, 04:41 PM	#7
WaldSkins Playmaker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 42 Posts: 2,726	Re: What do you want to see in a new CBA? 1.)Rookie pay scale 2.)Eliminate the Franchise Tag 3.)If a player is cut and or suspended because of a DUI/Gun Charge/Dog Fighting crime/etc, the team should not be affected(Cap Wise) 4.) If a player is traded his new team takes on the salary and bonuses. __________________ "I would change that around, Jesus isn't Cutler. I guarantee you Jesus couldnt thread the ball like Jay does."-Monksdown

03-04-2010, 02:14 PM	#11
CrazyCanuck Serenity Now Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,008	Re: What do you want to see in a new CBA? Keep the cap, save my job!

03-03-2010, 01:19 AM	#12
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 42 Posts: 12,514	Re: What do you want to see in a new CBA? There are a lot of people that practice in this and I won't pretend to understand everything that they do. Rookie pay scale balanced by incentives based on performance is the biggest thing that I'm worried about Retiree benefits tied to your salary would be great too.. so if some guy made on average 3 a year and another guy made 2 a year.. the 3 per year guy would be expected to contribute more to his (somewhat matched?) benefits

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