F. . . Parents who let their children run wild

[saden1]

Maybe you can just hit them while their parents aren't looking? That should incentivise them to keep an eye on their kids at all times.

Conone is accused of waiting until parents aren’t watching, moving in and striking children in the head with a key protruding from his fist.

[SolidSnake84]

i posted my story in the other thread, but the same thing happened to me, except that i had to step up in a situation because things were going from bad to worse. Something had to be done. The lady started yelling at me and stuff, calling me a baby killer and a rapist and everything else (i was in uniform at the time, and servicemen get that kind of treatment very frequently now)...she had a boyfriend and he looked at me, but must have decided otherwise...anyway i would have banged him out, cause thats how pissed i was.

Long story short, the management threw the people out because they had too many complaints.

Point here is this: if your kids are so bad in public and you do nothing, and it gets to the point that you are ruining it for other people, then you deserve whatever you get....IMO

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

i posted my story in the other thread, but the same thing happened to me, except that i had to step up in a situation because things were going from bad to worse. Something had to be done. The lady started yelling at me and stuff, calling me a baby killer and a rapist and everything else (i was in uniform at the time, and servicemen get that kind of treatment very frequently now)...she had a boyfriend and he looked at me, but must have decided otherwise...anyway i would have banged him out, cause thats how pissed i was.

Long story short, the management threw the people out because they had too many complaints.

Point here is this: if your kids are so bad in public and you do nothing, and it gets to the point that you are ruining it for other people, then you deserve whatever you get....IMO

Sadly normally the parents who allow this have no parenting skills or common sense and deem the behavior normal. Probably becasue the cicrcus that you see unwinding in front of you at the restaurent is a normal occurance in their household.

I don't feel like going round and round on this subject again but don't let a few bad apples make you think the whole bushel is bad.

Not speaking directly to you Solid Snake, more the mob as TTE put it.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Sadly normally the parents who allow this have no parenting skills or common sense and deem the behavior normal. Probably becasue the cicrcus that you see unwinding in front of you at the restaurent is a normal occurance in their household.

I don't feel like going round and round on this subject again but don't let a few bad apples make you think the whole bushel is bad.

Not speaking directly to you Solid Snake, more the mob as TTE put it.

hey i'm not offended at all, and i didnt take it that way. I was just generalizing, and saying there are people out there, who let it get that bad...they know who they are.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

i posted my story in the other thread, but the same thing happened to me, except that i had to step up in a situation because things were going from bad to worse. Something had to be done. The lady started yelling at me and stuff, calling me a baby killer and a rapist and everything else (i was in uniform at the time, and servicemen get that kind of treatment very frequently now)...she had a boyfriend and he looked at me, but must have decided otherwise...anyway i would have banged him out, cause thats how pissed i was.

Long story short, the management threw the people out because they had too many complaints.

Point here is this: if your kids are so bad in public and you do nothing, and it gets to the point that you are ruining it for other people, then you deserve whatever you get....IMO

This should teach you a lesson about going to Seattle.

[SolidSnake84]

i wanted to post again so people didn't get the wrong idea about me. We stumbled into a hellish situation, and i was pressed to act, from the urging of other people, and my own sense of doing the right thing. Anyway, i too was with my lady, and at that point i would have had to get physical if it got to that point. I had asked her in a nice way if she could please handle them, for the sake of the other patrons, and at that point she flipped.

I could deal with the verbal abuse, but if there was even any chance that my wife would be harmed, then i would have to act with force. I'm not a bad guy, and maybe i shouldn't have got involved, but it seems like when things go bad, i'm always the person who gets put up to doing something about it....

[Schneed10]

As for unruly kids, it depends on a couple things. First, are you in a nice restaurant or a friggin Applebees? While I wouldn't let my kids run around anywhere, the expectations need to be different at a "family" restaurant vs a different place.

But I do get what you're saying, if the kids are actually running around between tables and acting like maniacs, that's completely unacceptable in any place but McDonalds.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

As for unruly kids, it depends on a couple things. First, are you in a nice restaurant or a friggin Applebees? While I wouldn't let my kids run around anywhere, the expectations need to be different at a "family" restaurant vs a different place.

But I do get what you're saying, if the kids are actually running around between tables and acting like maniacs, that's completely unacceptable in any place but McDonalds.

Ah what you saying about Applebees that is fawking nice place. =)

[budw38]

I might have told the manager that a lady/animal must have forgot to take their medicine and is cursing and may be a threat ...." you might want to call the police or ... those men that carry straight jackets" ? I might have " spilled " some water on her as I was " leaving " , if she was a hard core nasty " B " .

[SolidSnake84]

It's kind of funny that people keep comparing "family restaurants" to "nice restaurants", making it seem like it's okay for your bad kids to act a fool at a family restaurant, but if it's a "nice restaurant", then it's a different story.

So if i'm trying to enjoy a meal at Applebee's, it's perfectly fine for your bastards to ruin it for everybody there, including ME, but if you and I were eating at a fancy steakhouse or something, then you would definatley make your kids behave.....

they should behave in public, but i know most people seem to miss that point.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

It's kind of funny that people keep comparing "family restaurants" to "nice restaurants", making it seem like it's okay for your bad kids to act a fool at a family restaurant, but if it's a "nice restaurant", then it's a different story.

So if i'm trying to enjoy a meal at Applebee's, it's perfectly fine for your bastards to ruin it for everybody there, including ME, but if you and I were eating at a fancy steakhouse or something, then you would definatley make your kids behave.....

Well I personally would make my kids behave anywhere or they wouldn't enjoy the privelege of eating out in any restaurant.

But there are social norms in each place. Look around an Applebee's, it's entirely normal for kids to be climbing on the chairs and laughing and carrying on. It goes unnoticed because the environment is a noisier one. In a nice restaurant it's not OK for them to be loud at all, which is generally why parents rarely take kids to places like that.

You should never have to deal with kids running around a restaurant, or throwing food at each other, or fighting with one another at the table. That's not OK even at Applebee's. But if you're in an Applebee's and my three year old is crying because she's tired and I won't let her have chocolate milk, well too bad for you. It's an Applebee's, there will be noise.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

It's kind of funny that people keep comparing "family restaurants" to "nice restaurants", making it seem like it's okay for your bad kids to act a fool at a family restaurant, but if it's a "nice restaurant", then it's a different story.

So if i'm trying to enjoy a meal at Applebee's, it's perfectly fine for your bastards to ruin it for everybody there, including ME, but if you and I were eating at a fancy steakhouse or something, then you would definatley make your kids behave.....

they should behave in public, but i know most people seem to miss that point.

Sense our daughter was born three years ago we go out to eat about 1/2 as much because I have a hard time relaxing worried that our daughter might bother someone eating. Funny thing is most of the time she will sit there and makes less noise then the adults sitting around us. When we do eat out we use the one hour rule of thumb. Anything over an hour for a three yr old is just asking for trouble. The one time she did act up we where just finishing our dinner and the wife took her outside while I got the bill and paid the lady.

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Sense our daughter was born three years ago we go out to eat about 1/2 as much because I have a hard time relaxing worried that our daughter might bother someone eating. Funny thing is most of the time she will sit there and makes less noise then the adults sitting around us. When we do eat out we use the one hour rule of thumb. Anything over an hour for a three yr old is just asking for trouble. The one time she did act up we where just finishing our dinner and the wife took her outside while I got the bill and paid the lady.

We're in the same boat, as my kids are 2 1/2 and 15 months. We have to pick and choose when we eat out for the sake that we don't want to ruin anyone's time, whether it's Applebee's, Arby's, or any other restaurant. My wife gets very embarrassed, even in a kid-friendly restaurant, when my kids get out of hand. For the most part, both kids are very well behaved when we eat out, but we had one occasion where my wife took our youngest out while I had our food boxed up to go.

[JoeRedskin]

^^ What he said.

[SolidSnake84]

I'm not trying to sound like a idiot, but i'm only asking because i'm not a parent yet.

But i see it all the time. Why do people take their infants and children that are like 2 years old out to places when they are obviously too little. Is it because you can't find babysitters?

It used to happen at the old movie theater all the time. Infants in the movie. Ruining it for everyone. Now at the alamo, they don't allow it because they serve beer.