Trading Players...Why?

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Two main reasons

1. We were 4-12 last year, and dropped 6 of our last 8 the year before

2. We need to (excuse the business jargon here) leverage our assets for optimal growth. In the long run, a guy like Andre Carter doesn't have the same value as an extra draft pick does

Also, there's no way of knowing that what we have now is far better than the draft pick we would get for them.

Correct!!!

[MTK]

I blame it on several reasons:

- The Madden syndrome

- Change for the sake of change

- Since we view our team/players under a microscope we tend to undervalue our guys while overvaluing other team's players.

- Boredom

[BigHairedAristocrat]

I would say pretty much everyone here is advocating that we trade productive players. No one expects us to trade Brennan for a 3rd rounder or anything like that. Carter and Jarmon probably won't be very productive in a 3-4, but they have both been productive in the 4-3. They should be shopped. Santana Moss won't be of any value to this team in 3 years. he should be shopped. We've got three pretty good strong safeties - horton or Landry should be shopped. Either Cooley or Davis should be shopped at some point before Davis' contract expires, but we have time there.

Other than those guys, (along with jason campbell and carlos rogers) i can't think of anyone on our team that has any trade value whatsoever.

[#56fanatic]

tradeable - Cooley, Rogers, Moss, maybe Carter.

Cooley, only if you can get a 1st, Rogers for a 2nd, be lucky to get a 3rd for either Moss or Carter. Maybe a 3rd for Rogers..the dude is just bad.

I would hate to see cooley go, but this regime has no ties to any of the players on this roster. They know they have talent, but may want to bring in their own guys and build through the draft, which means anything, anyone is available. Campbell still may be a draft day trade, if someone comes up in the 2nd round and doesn't like anyone available (buffalo) they could offer the 2nd rounder, and I think you take it at this point.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

tradeable - Cooley, Rogers, Moss, maybe Carter.

Cooley, only if you can get a 1st, Rogers for a 2nd, be lucky to get a 3rd for either Moss or Carter. Maybe a 3rd for Rogers..the dude is just bad.

I would hate to see cooley go, but this regime has no ties to any of the players on this roster. They know they have talent, but may want to bring in their own guys and build through the draft, which means anything, anyone is available. Campbell still may be a draft day trade, if someone comes up in the 2nd round and doesn't like anyone available (buffalo) they could offer the 2nd rounder, and I think you take it at this point.

i would switch it to (rogers,moss,carter,maybe cooley)
carter is not a good in the 3-4.like someone said earlier,it's useless to have him standing on the sidelines for the majority of a game.
cooley is a proven,probowl caliber tightend. the team needs to be careful in regards to cooley vs. davis. davis did well last year but he's still not the caliber TE that cooley is.the team could possibly trade davis.

[MTK]

Too many rumor mills out there too, and too many gullible people. Seriously folks, stay away from ES or the Bleacher Report, or take both with a serious grain of salt when reading.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Too many rumor mills out there too, and too many gullible people. Seriously folks, stay away from ES or the Bleacher Report, or take both with a serious grain of salt when reading.

are those the rumors going on there?

I never check BR and check ES every now and again

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Too many rumor mills out there too, and too many gullible people. Seriously folks, stay away from ES or the Bleacher Report, or take both with a serious grain of salt when reading.

That old common sense principle works real well also. Oh! I forgot, that's something you have to be endowed with.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Too many rumor mills out there too, and too many gullible people. Seriously folks, stay away from ES or the Bleacher Report, or take both with a serious grain of salt when reading.

You forgot PFT.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Buster

You forgot PFT.

PFT has gotten better, at least in the offseason. We'll see what gutter-sludge comes up about resentment, etc later on.

[SirClintonPortis]

With regards to Daivs/Cooley, I just think people naturally aren't comfortable with a backup that is capable as the starter and does not see the field, so they want a backup who is less capable but is basically the same price as the capable backup.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Trading Landry makes no sense.

Trading Cooley or Carter would make sense because they are positions of strength and the resulting picks could be used to fill a weakness. Plus, you are getting a younger, cheaper player who is hungry.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Trading Landry makes no sense.

Trading Cooley or Carter would make sense because they are positions of strength and the resulting picks could be used to fill a weakness. Plus, you are getting a younger, cheaper player who is hungry.

I think it would make sense if we trade down out of the 4th spot pick up another high pick, trade Landry for hopefully a 3rd or better, then draft Berry or Mays (whoever is available) then with the 2nd rounder pick an OT and with the pick added from the trade whether it is a 2nd or 3rd rounder get an OG, plus we get the Landry pick for either a LB, QB or RB. I would also try to trade Carter.

[doughtydoubter]

i think the general consensus that i see from people is that for once, they are content to totally rip down the team to its foundation and rebuild...trade a few playeres for the future instead of hoping adding a few new players is the "kick in the ass" we need to jumpstart us to a winning season.
I love cooley, his cheerleader wife and his overexposed playbook pictures...but if i can get a tackle that will play for my team the next five plus years out of him he is going.
i dont think he is as expendable as everybody has made him to be this year...but nothing wrong with trying to get value out of a player if he is not in your long term plans ::cough cough:: campbell.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by doughtydoubter

i think the general consensus that i see from people is that for once, they are content to totally rip down the team to its foundation and rebuild...trade a few playeres for the future instead of hoping adding a few new players is the "kick in the ass" we need to jumpstart us to a winning season.
I love cooley, his cheerleader wife and his overexposed playbook pictures...but if i can get a tackle that will play for my team the next five plus years out of him he is going.
i dont think he is as expendable as everybody has made him to be this year...but nothing wrong with trying to get value out of a player if he is not in your long term plans ::cough cough:: campbell.

I found the picture funny but I wouldn't say that I loved it.. hmm.. haha