On Brian Orakpo and holding

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Maybe I'm taking crazy pills but I haven't seen him whine one time...

Me either.

[LavaRnChad]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Maybe I'm taking crazy pills but I haven't seen him whine one time...

Well I've been to both home games this year and I've seen him. Even B-Mitch said he would like to see Rak "worry less about missed calls and learn how to not be held" during one of the Post Game shows. He's young so he will be fine. It's all a learning experience for him. Oh yeah, don't take crazy pills.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinster

the way he plays, maybe he should hold a little more...

also orakpo would not be leading the league is sacks because EVERYONE gets held

Not everyone is getting the calls like Rak. He's drawn 5 holding calls, more than the top sack guys Matthews and Phillips.

[LavaRnChad]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Not everyone is getting the calls like Rak. He's drawn 5 holding calls, more than the top sack guys Matthews and Phillips.

The holding stat can be misleading because of the different variables. If other passrushers played against the same tackles (especially the NFL's worst Alex Barron) and in front of the same officiating groups as Rak did, would they have forced the same amount of holding calls? Maybe more? Maybe less? It can't be determined, that's why the forced holding stat is useless when comparing player to player.

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by LavaRnChad

The holding stat can be misleading because of the different variables. If other passrushers played against the same tackles (especially the NFL's worst Alex Barron) and in front of the same officiating groups as Rak did, would they have forced the same amount of holding calls? Maybe more? Maybe less? It can't be determined, that's why the forced holding stat is useless when comparing player to player.

You could say that about any stat. Every other pass rusher has been going up against different tackles in different situations, so there are always different circumstances when comparing different players. The forced holding stat is just as relevant as sacks and hurries.

[FRPLG]

Making a deal out of it in the media is the best thing that acn be done. If he becomes the "Most Held Guy" in the NFL then officials will start to pay more attention to it. The last thing the league wants is Fox putting together montages of holds on Orakpo that they run in the middle of th 4th quarter every Sunday during a Skins game.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Making a deal out of it in the media is the best thing that acn be done. If he becomes the "Most Held Guy" in the NFL then officials will start to pay more attention to it. The last thing the league wants is Fox putting together montages of holds on Orakpo that they run in the middle of th 4th quarter every Sunday during a Skins game.

Word...let the sacks pile up!!!

[Meks]

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[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Meks

Se the sig

I think the NBA could prove you wrong on that one, but it IS bad...especially this year.

They made a change that should have improved it (ump in backfield) and it worsened their performance.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

D.C. Sports Bog - On Brian Orakpo and holding

He would probably be leading the league in sacks if it weren't for all the holding.

Ok, now lets go back and see how many times a Redskin O linemen did the same thing to stop a sack of McNabb?This is the same complaint every great pass rusher has had over the years ...Reggie White was held all the time,LT....go back and watch some of the old tapes of Joe Jacoby and LT...they have to fight their way through it.Orakpo is a great pass rusher he just needs to find a way though it.

[Gtothearry]

May be my bias but I don't see it happen nearly as often on the Skins line.

[takethecake]

Yeah and every time heyer gets put in the game, he racks up at least two or three holding calls..

[GTripp0012]

Orakpo is so, SO good. No idea how we got him with the 13th overall pick in the draft, considering how scrutinized the process was.

Buffalo got to see all the tape on Orakpo at Texas, and STILL took Aaron Maybin (likely, though, that was a marketing-driven move instead of a football driven-move). And people are going to blame the coaching/quarterback situation for that team's struggles.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Orakpo is so, SO good. No idea how we got him with the 13th overall pick in the draft, considering how scrutinized the process was.

Buffalo got to see all the tape on Orakpo at Texas, and STILL took Aaron Maybin (likely, though, that was a marketing-driven move instead of a football driven-move). And people are going to blame the coaching/quarterback situation for that team's struggles.

I think Ralph Wilson had such an astounding record of drafting or signing Texas busts that he simply decided he wasn't going to grab another Longhorn for the rest of his life.

See:
Mike Williams
Derrick Dockery
Jason Peters
etc

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Orakpo is so, SO good. No idea how we got him with the 13th overall pick in the draft, considering how scrutinized the process was.

Buffalo got to see all the tape on Orakpo at Texas, and STILL took Aaron Maybin (likely, though, that was a marketing-driven move instead of a football driven-move). And people are going to blame the coaching/quarterback situation for that team's struggles.

He should NOT have been there for us...we were incredibly lucky.

I wonder if Paul Posluszny had some say in that draft pick...fellow "Linebacker University" alumni.