ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Very good article. I hope no one in the Dallas organization reads it!


That actually sums up the DT vs AA debate here as well.

A side note - why is the Metrodome the nosiest place to play?

Answer: Enclosed buildings allow the sound to rebound back into the audience whereas stadiums with no roof do not. A dome is better than an enclosed stadium, Cowgirls stadium for example, because the rounded shape rebounds sound better than in a stadium that is more square or rectangular because the sound can get caught and trapped in the corners.

[skinsfaninok]

I hope they finish 2-14

[MonkFan4Life]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I hope they finish 2-14

2-14 ? I hope they finish 1-15

[firstdown]

A picture is worth a thousand words.

[MTK]

If Jerry would just hire a real coach and GM, and step out of the way, they might be dangerous.

Sounds familiar huh?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If Jerry would just hire a real coach and GM, and step out of the way, they might be dangerous.

Sounds familiar huh?

Yeah, they even had someone suggest trucks with signs (and no, I am NOT kidding! Don't worry mlmPertert, I forwarded them your Kapipal link )

The difference, in my opinion, was Snyder had over time fluctuated back and forth between hands on and hands off. If he felt he had a good staff, he will be hands off, if not, then he gets caught up in it. With JJ, he wants to be hands on all the time, remember bringing in TO, even Parcells definitely did not want him. I don't think JJ will ever step back. Which is fine by me. (His son does seem to have a good football head though, so he may eventually hand the reigns to him).

[scowan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If Jerry would just hire a real coach and GM, and step out of the way, they might be dangerous.

Sounds familiar huh?

Matty you are right......Jerry will never give up control, like Dan Snyder now has done. Jerry will always think he is smarter than the guy or guys he hires. If it ever becomes a question of Jerry hiring a bright GM or coach, Jerry probably wont hire the guy. I think he is a little like a young Al Davis. Also working against Jerry hiring a guy and taking a back seat is the fact that Jerry won Super Bowls early when he had control. His Ego is too big to let go of the controls.

[LavaRnChad]

Originally Posted by scowan

Matty you are right......Jerry will never give up control, like Dan Snyder now has done. Jerry will always think he is smarter than the guy or guys he hires. If it ever becomes a question of Jerry hiring a bright GM or coach, Jerry probably wont hire the guy. I think he is a little like a young Al Davis. Also working against Jerry hiring a guy and taking a back seat is the fact that Jerry won Super Bowls early when he had control. His Ego is too big to let go of the controls.

Jerry Jones won't give up control because his method brought him 3 SB rings. Snyder had to change his method because he didn't accomplish ****, and the team actually got worse during his ownership. Snyder had no choice but to change.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by LavaRnChad

Jerry Jones won't give up control because his method brought him 3 SB rings. Snyder had to change his method because he didn't accomplish ****, and the team actually got worse during his ownership. Snyder had no choice but to change.

Well realistically, the 3 SB rings were a carry over effect, and Jimmy Johnson had a LOT to do with them. I would think not having a playoff win for 14 or 15 (or whatever it was) would represent getting worse under JJ also. He doesn't see that because of his very early success. If one good thing came out of the last decade it was the (hopefully permanent) realization by DS that a football team is better off run by professionals and not the owner.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If Jerry would just hire a real coach and GM, and step out of the way, they might be dangerous.

Sounds familiar huh?

I also thought this pargraph sounded familiar:

You cannot make losing easy or acceptable, which is what I believe Phillips has done. He has created a culture at Valley Ranch in which he insulates everybody from criticism, never singles anybody out for blame, refuses to hold players accountable and has convinced his team that the media is the cause of any problems. When Leonard Davis admitted he is at fault for playing badly and was deservedly, albeit belatedly, benched, Phillips soothed him with praise, referring to him as a Pro Bowl player and returning him to his starting job.

[freddyg12]

I'm a little uneasy piling on just yet. When they've lost 7 or 8 games, I'll happily do so. All of the negative publicity might just motivate them to get on track, it has in the past. If not, they might just head towards a major free fall & that would be fun to watch, after the debacles we've dealt with here in the last decade.

They are still a talented team & they are facing another talented but distraught team sunday w/head coaching/leadership issues. If dallas wins sunday, or for that matter minnesota wins, they're 2-3 & right in it. Losing this game will be huge for either team, but I'm still not ready to call either of them done.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I'm a little uneasy piling on just yet. When they've lost 7 or 8 games, I'll happily do so. All of the negative publicity might just motivate them to get on track, it has in the past. If not, they might just head towards a major free fall & that would be fun to watch, after the debacles we've dealt with here in the last decade.

They are still a talented team & they are facing another talented but distraught team sunday w/head coaching/leadership issues. If dallas wins sunday, or for that matter minnesota wins, they're 2-3 & right in it. Losing this game will be huge for either team, but I'm still not ready to call either of them done.

I'm with you on this. While I've thoroughly enjoyed watching them tank the past few games, I think they'll win a few that we all think they shouldn't win. They do have the history of the December collapse, so I'm hoping that trend stays true.

I just REALLY want to see Minnesota take it to them and that will put out any little fire they had left.

[JoeRedskin]

so ... after Phillips is fired does Garrett become coach?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

so ... after Phillips is fired does Garrett become coach?

We could only hope.

Basically Garrett and Romo remind me of an analogy I had a while back... They both remind me of Hideo Nomo. A little unconventional, and almost came out of nowhere, they were pretty good until people figured him out.

From then on, it worked out OK for him for a while, but then just kind of fizzled out.

I think Garrett and Romo will do the same...

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

so ... after Phillips is fired does Garrett become coach?

If after the season, no. I see Norv going there after SD cans him this year. This assumes, Cowher to Carolina and Gruden to 49'ers or Browns.

If in season, say they lose the next 2, then yes Garrett is it.