Currently Rostered Players Who Should be on the Redskins in 2011

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'll also stay this: for as fantastic as Brian Orakpo is at rushing the passer, he's not a complete player with a really high football IQ. His contributions to the team can be mostly replaced. We just have one of the best young pass rushers in the game, and need to complement him with other top pass rushers in order to get the most out of him. If teams can just double team him because we have no other pass rushing threats, he's a liability out there at linebacker.

Most of Lorenzo Alexander's skill set translated very well to outside linebacker. His pass rushing skills did not. He's an interior pass rusher playing on the outside.

The other strategy teams use against Brian Orakpo is to exercise the "The Brian Orakpo Rule" -- a little known passage in the NFL Rulebook which allows opponents of the Washington Redskins to hold Orakpo constantly and egregiously throughout the game, without penalty from the officials except in very rare cases.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The other strategy teams use against Brian Orakpo is to exercise the "The Brian Orakpo Rule" -- a little known passage in the NFL Rulebook which allows opponents of the Washington Redskins to hold Orakpo constantly and egregiously throughout the game, without penalty from the officials except in very rare cases.

He still leads the NFL in times held with 10, so they're not missing any more holds on him than on other elite pass rushers. There have been some really egregious misses that have led to big plays for the opponent, but he draws the holds with the best of them.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

He still leads the NFL in times held with 10, so they're not missing any more holds on him than on other elite pass rushers. There have been some really egregious misses that have led to big plays for the opponent, but he draws the holds with the best of them.

Is that a real stat if so where can I find it?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Is that a real stat if so where can I find it?

It's not official, but the networks keep it and put it up during the games. It's also in the play by play.

I have 9 holds plus one illegal block in the back (functionally, a hold) on Orakpo this year. Haynesworth is second on our team with 3.

This isn't current, but it was accurate for the league as of Week 13:

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2010 Hits and Hurries

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The other strategy teams use against Brian Orakpo is to exercise the "The Brian Orakpo Rule" -- a little known passage in the NFL Rulebook which allows opponents of the Washington Redskins to hold Orakpo constantly and egregiously throughout the game, without penalty from the officials except in very rare cases.

How does Orakpo not get any calls when Ware, Allen and Harrison get every holding call??? It's bull shit, I swear sometimes I think the refs just hate us.. I know that sounds dumb and like I'm a crybaby but cmon

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

How does Orakpo not get any calls when Ware, Allen and Harrison get every holding call??? It's bull shit, I swear sometimes I think the refs just hate us.. I know that sounds dumb and like I'm a crybaby but cmon

It's because of ESPN....

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

How does Orakpo not get any calls when Ware, Allen and Harrison get every holding call??? It's bull shit, I swear sometimes I think the refs just hate us.. I know that sounds dumb and like I'm a crybaby but cmon

I know -- it's infuriating. For the first time since the days of Dexter Manley and Charles Mann, we FINALLY get a bonafide pass rushing demon, but the guy gets held constantly and we rarely get the calls.

It's like we cannot f*cking win.

[Bucket]

Well, the Oline takes alot of the blame in pass protection, but after watching alot of games this year it's our RB's that have given up alot of sacks compared to the Oline missing assignments, and running out their routes to early.

I would like to see Portis back next year, and I really hope he can stay healthy for a few more years while Keiland Williams gets more adapt. I like Williams better as a runner becaue he has a quicker step then Torain does. Torain doesn't seem to be able to change direction very well, and once he changes direction it slows him down ALOT. He's more like a Brandon Jacobs type runner just smaller.

I would love to see Armstrong back next year. I still think we could use a bigger playmaker on the sides, but Armstrong has proven to be a great Possession WR this year for us, and besides the first game of the season, he has caught almost EVERYTHING thrown his way.

[diehard]

Guys under contract to be gone next year are:

Carter
Cooley (tradeable?)
McNabb
Kemoeatu
Rabach
Haynesworth
Portis

[irish]

IFor the life of me I just cant understand why anyone woiuld think CP should be back. He's too old, and too injury prone.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by irish

IFor the life of me I just cant understand why anyone woiuld think CP should be back. He's too old, and too injury prone.

Me too. My problem is he not on the field with all the injuries. Picking up the blitz on 3rd is not the primary function of a RB.

[newticketholder]

Does anybody think they will go out and get T.O or R.Moss. i wouldn't put it past them

[MTK]

Originally Posted by newticketholder

Does anybody think they will go out and get T.O or R.Moss. i wouldn't put it past them

Considering they passed on them once already, don't see why they would be interested now.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by newticketholder

Does anybody think they will go out and get T.O or R.Moss. i wouldn't put it past them

With Cerrato and X coach, yes. With Bruce and Shanny, nopers.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by newticketholder

Does anybody think they will go out and get T.O or R.Moss. i wouldn't put it past them

I think at this point absolutely not. Id bring in Vincent Jackson or draft AJ Green and extend our own Moss which I think he would be a reasonable price. Moss and TO want top money...which is laughable IMO.