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[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would try and trade Rogers and Rocky, or get something for them, anything. I'd bring back Grossman, Blades and Brown as starters, bring back Reed for back up and teams and get rid of Wilson, Sellers, Heyer, Buchanon and Goldston. I'd also try and trade anyone that has value, go 1-15 and have the first pick in the 2012 draft.

It's tough to try to trade impending free agents. Sign and trades don't work as well in the NFL as they do in the NBA

My opinion (sprinkled in with some knowledge of the situations)

Rogers: He'll be back, but it could be a drawn out process
Rocky: They'll let him walk
Grossman: Working on a 2 year extension that essentially allows him to be a bridge to the next guy
Blades: Not likely to return (or so I've been told)
Brown: He stays, they're working on a new contract with him
Wilson: I'd like to see him back but I don't know
Sellers: I'm done with him, he needs to go already
Heyer: They like him, probably will be back
Buchanon: He wants a starters job, but he likes it here. I don't really know
Doughty: Should be back
Golston: Probably gone, looking go get paid. Not in our long term plans

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's tough to try to trade impending free agents. Sign and trades don't work as well in the NFL as they do in the NBA

My opinion (sprinkled in with some knowledge of the situations)

Rogers: He'll be back, but it could be a drawn out process
Rocky: They'll let him walk
Grossman: Working on a 2 year extension that essentially allows him to be a bridge to the next guy
Blades: Not likely to return (or so I've been told)
Brown: He stays, they're working on a new contract with him
Wilson: I'd like to see him back but I don't know
Sellers: I'm done with him, he needs to go already
Heyer: They like him, probably will be back
Buchanon: He wants a starters job, but he likes it here. I don't really know
Doughty: Should be back
Golston: Probably gone, looking go get paid. Not in our long term plans

Then I'd just let them go. We're never going to get over the hump with any of these guys. If we bring them back we're just going to have another 4-6 win season. I'd rather go 1-15 then 6-10.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Then I'd just let them go. We're never going to get over the hump with any of these guys. If we bring them back we're just going to have another 4-6 win season. I'd rather go 1-15 then 6-10.

Isn't 1-15 a "fire everybody" situation?

I don't mean just Mike Shanahan, Rex Grossman, and DeAngelo Hall. I mean, like, Bruce Allen and Eric Shaffer.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Isn't 1-15 a "fire everybody" situation?

I don't mean just Rex Grossman and DeAngelo Hall. I mean, like, Bruce Allen and Eric Shaffer.

Yeah I didn't get the whole "I'd rather go 1-15 vs. going 6-10 again" thing. I don't want 6-10 and I hope the team does better but I'll take the 6-10 over 1-15 as long as progress is being made to get this team to be respectable. In other words if they can pick up young healthy players and move the ball well but their issue is the "red zone" then we know thats all they need to work on the following year. I don't ever want to be the team that only wins 1 game all year.

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's tough to try to trade impending free agents. Sign and trades don't work as well in the NFL as they do in the NBA

My opinion (sprinkled in with some knowledge of the situations)

Rogers: He'll be back, but it could be a drawn out process
Rocky: They'll let him walk
Grossman: Working on a 2 year extension that essentially allows him to be a bridge to the next guy
Blades: Not likely to return (or so I've been told)
Brown: He stays, they're working on a new contract with him
Wilson: I'd like to see him back but I don't know
Sellers: I'm done with him, he needs to go already
Heyer: They like him, probably will be back
Buchanon: He wants a starters job, but he likes it here. I don't really know
Doughty: Should be back
Golston: Probably gone, looking go get paid. Not in our long term plans

This is good news to me. I really want Rodgers to be on top of the list to be signed. D.Hall is a must keeper I dont see all the doubt in his play he has been solid in my eyes.

Sellers I am so done with him as well.
Buchanon Ive liked since his H-town days but Barnes was so impressive I'd like to see more of him. Youth movement baby!
Wilson played well this year. It shall be interesting this off season.

[MTK]

You can't trade a guy who isn't under contract, so someone like Rocky is probably just going to walk.

[Paintrain]

I believe I read that the only player on offense (maybe the team) with guaranteed money in 2011 is Trent Williams. We've got players under contract of course but we can release/trade anyone without any potential cap ramifications. We are looking at potential financial flexibility of $30-$40 million of cap space. It's going to be exciting to see who they get but at the same time frustrating because we're going to have to hear the 'same old Redskins' crap from media and fans alike.

[MTK]

Jarmon is back to the d-line now, we definitely need to address the LB group

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Jarmon is back to the d-line now, we definitely need to address the LB group

1 additional pass rusher makes this a very potent pass defense.

You still have to trim the fat, such as Golston/DHall/Moore/Horton/McIntosh who have contributed to the season-long struggles of our pass defense. None of those players will be on the next great Redskins pass defense, but I believe FAR fewer additions are needed than subtractions.

Completely different on the other side of the ball, where we have a lot of decent contributors, but our only above average players are likely Trent Williams, Chris Cooley, and Fred Davis, and no depth.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

1 additional pass rusher makes this a very potent pass defense.

You still have to trim the fat, such as Golston/DHall/Moore/Horton/McIntosh who have contributed to the season-long struggles of our pass defense. None of those players will be on the next great Redskins pass defense, but I believe FAR fewer additions are needed than subtractions.

Completely different on the other side of the ball, where we have a lot of decent contributors, but our only above average players are likely Trent Williams, Chris Cooley, and Fred Davis, and no depth.

I disagree about Hall, I think he can improve his game w/better safety coverage & maturity on his part. He has big play ability & I think he stays around a while for that reason. The next great pass d could be next year or 2012 & I see him on the roster.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I disagree about Hall, I think he can improve his game w/better safety coverage & maturity on his part. He has big play ability & I think he stays around a while for that reason. The next great pass d could be next year or 2012 & I see him on the roster.

Yeah agree. I think as the pass rush disappeared from weeks 8-13, less mistakes were made by passers and throws were more deliberate...Hall struggled more along with the rest of our coverage. Hall makes plays in the secondary we need that. Landry does as well, but playin half a season doesnt sit well with me. To me Hall is part of the solution rather than the problem. Doesnt help when Moore struggled immensly in his "breakout" season, with everything from tackling to coverage. The only way would advocate Hall leaving is if we drafted one of the top 2 CB(which I really prefer not too with all the other areas we need help) and signed Carlos. If Hall was traded and we signed Ike Taylor that to me is a wash. Taylor probably better in coverage, but positive impactful plays? Hall proven to be more valuable based on last season play.

[Bucket]

I would let the whole lot go, but Grossman, and Doughty

[BigHairedAristocrat]

i'm not sure if I'd bring Jammal Brown back, atleast not prior to free agency. He'll be 30 when the 2011 season starts and there are younger, better right tackles available in free agency. I also don't know why Brown would be intrested in returning. I seem to remember him wanting to play left tackle... If he still has that view, he certainly won't be cheap to resign.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

i'm not sure if I'd bring Jammal Brown back, atleast not prior to free agency. He'll be 30 when the 2011 season starts and there are younger, better right tackles available in free agency. I also don't know why Brown would be intrested in returning. I seem to remember him wanting to play left tackle... If he still has that view, he certainly won't be cheap to resign.

By my count there will be four tackles (right or left) in FA who are younger/better than Brown:

Tyson Clabo
Jared Gaither
Doug Free
Ryan Harris

I don't think any of them will come cheaper than Brown will. You'd be paying starter money for all those guys and probably a premium for the first three. And I think R. Harris is a small upgrade on Brown, if that. Though Shanny did draft him.

[GTripp0012]

That's the same list for players better/younger than Heyer as well. We'll need to come away with at least two, I'm guessing it will be the same two we currently have. Harris is always possible if contract negotiations with either Heyer or Brown goes bad.