just another question or you guys 2 cents

[Drift Reality]

Originally Posted by CRT3

Wyn ~ Samuels ~ Cartwright ~ Kozlowski ~ Possibly Gardner

Wyn and Samuels present future Cap issues and you might as well offload now and take the hit. The real question is how much money are the willing to spend on Pierce and if so will they let Barrow go?

I have a feeling you are going to see Pierce get around a 5 million dollar signing bonus. maybe a 5 year contract worth 15 million or so, with a 5 million dollar bonus.

As for Smoot, I think he will get something that resembles Spring's contract - probably in the neighborhood of a 10-12 million dollar signing bonus over 6-7 years.

[Gmanc711]

Cartwright, which I agree is ashame, cause I really liked him, but I understand. Morton, Gardner maybe. I think Hall will stay.

[Winskins]

Cartwright kinda reminds me of Rudy of something. I like the way he plays, I think he can be an asset to the team. The Redskins might be able to keep him around though, I don't think anyone will be rearranging their salary cap trying to sign him

[bedlamVR]

I think Cartwright is only on the team becasue he has a cool football name but he is nothing but a backup remember we have Jon Simon on IR who seems to be a Gibbs fave.

I also definatly don't see Jacobs as gone he is a year removed from being our top pick (2nd Round) also i am not sure Gardner is gone either given out cap shape and the fact he is in his final year we might give him one more shot.

[jbcjr14]

Sellers, Cartwright, Morton (Betts will take on this role). Gibbs likes Gardner so he will stay. Hall stays and Dockery stays.

[Daseal]

I think Gardner will stay too. He's made some really big catches this year. I think we need to hit him downfield more (or anyone for that matter.) Like in the Dallas game!

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I think Gardner will stay too. He's made some really big catches this year. I think we need to hit him downfield more (or anyone for that matter.) Like in the Dallas game!

I agree, it has more the terrible play of our Qb's and our play calling, not the play of our receivers. If Coles finally gets healthy our receivers will be fine. A full offseason with Gibbs and CO. will really help everyone on offense.
I think some of our high priced vets like Samules and Arrington need to be careful. We have several cheap players that are playing just as well but at a fraction of the price.
Trade bait?

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I agree, it has more the terrible play of our Qb's and our play calling, not the play of our receivers. If Coles finally gets healthy our receivers will be fine. A full offseason with Gibbs and CO. will really help everyone on offense.
I think some of our high priced vets like Samules and Arrington need to be careful. We have several cheap players that are playing just as well but at a fraction of the price.
Trade bait?

our offense DID have a full offseason with Gibbs and Co.

but yeah a full offseason AFTER a full regular season, seeing Portis's strengths, and more importantly with Ramsey at the undisputed helm SHOULD do us a lot of good.

but Coles needs to get healthy, because right now we have TWO possession recievers and no deep ones. kills off a vital dimension to our offense, not to mention a dimension Gibbs loves.

[MTK]

There's not much reason to let Gardner go when he's on the last year of his deal.

Unless we can get some value for him in a trade (which I highly doubt) I expect him to be back next year playing for a big contract, and hopefully his big payday won't come from us.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

There's not much reason to let Gardner go when he's on the last year of his deal.

Unless we can get some value for him in a trade (which I highly doubt) I expect him to be back next year playing for a big contract, and hopefully his big payday won't come from us.

Yep, I agree! I don't think it would hurt us to unload Gardner if he's going to continue to live up to his nickname 50/50. I wouldn't mind seeing a veteran receiver come in (such as what Henry Ellard gave us) and work as a mentor for the receivers. It could also possible help us with consistancy with our wide outs...something we've been missing badly this year.

[hurrykaine]

Samuels is gone (unless he agrees to a dramatic restructuring)
Gardner
Cartwright
One of Raymer/Friedman

On the Defensive side,

Barrow is gone

[Daseal]

In these last three games I want to see them try Jacobs at speed receiver. From what I hear this guy flys, but we haven't seen enough of him this season to really make an accurate assumption. I still think he was a steal in the 2nd round (thank god he had the flu during the combine!)

Not sure if he's gotten the shot he deserves yet.

[MTK]

Hall will be back as long as his leg problems are resolved.

I'm not sure about letting Wynn go either, he's had his best season as a Redskin, he seems to be a good fit in this defense, then again you can say that of almost anyone this year it seems.

[manicd]

I'm not trying to be a smart ass here. But who would want any of our players that people on this board suggest we trade? I mean, what team is going to say, "hey, this guy isn't wanted by a sub .500 team. Let's sign him here." We stink folks. We don't want some of these players because it is believed they are helping us stink. I can't imaging any team out there picking up rejects. Well, except for the Washington Redskins! Dohhh!!!

[jrocx69]

*samuels
raymer
gardner
kozlowski

*daniels
barrow
ADE!
lott

just a guess, samuels and daniels might cost us later down the road, but i dont think gibbs is a big fan of samuels nor anyone else, and daniels seemed way to injury proan to keep on the roster. but i hope we dont cut barrow, he is a tackling machine and maybe this was a fluke year for him.