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Old 04-25-2011, 10:32 AM   #1
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Re: Would you be ok with...

It's not okay with me. It's the teams biggest need and the most important position...can not support seeing an entire draft go by without addressing the QB position at all.
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Old 04-25-2011, 10:53 AM   #2
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I'd be ok. We will draft a QB this year though.
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Old 04-25-2011, 11:52 AM   #3
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We shouldn't draft a QB just because we need a QB. The concern should be value at the position. I don't see it at #10 nor do I see it at #41. No more Colt Brennams and Jordan Palmers, we may as well use the pick on a position player, or [players] with so many holes to fill.
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Old 04-25-2011, 10:54 AM   #4
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This is what I've been saying all along.

If we absolutely MUST take one, get one later than the 1st round.
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Old 04-25-2011, 11:05 AM   #5
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This is what I've been saying all along.

If we absolutely MUST take one, get one later than the 1st round.
Agreed, we can trade down and grab a QB. Here's a nice article on Ponder by the folks from the NFP.

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Old 04-25-2011, 11:38 AM   #6
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Re: Would you be ok with...

Here's a question, where would this year's qb class rank if you combined this year and next year's classes? I agree that next year's class is much stronger and it would be worth trading down this year and adding more pieces and then getting one of the qbs next season that appear to have far more potential when it comes to being a true franchise qb.
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Old 04-25-2011, 11:54 AM   #7
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Here's a question, where would this year's qb class rank if you combined this year and next year's classes? I agree that next year's class is much stronger and it would be worth trading down this year and adding more pieces and then getting one of the qbs next season that appear to have far more potential when it comes to being a true franchise qb.
Personally, I feel that getting a rookie QB now would be appropriate. I'm sure I'll catch flak for this, but last year Mike Shanahan was not in a rebuilding mode whatsoever. Sadly, it has taken the failure (more like a disaster) of the McNabb trade to finally get in this rebuilding mode. Right now the best situation for the team is for MS to keep the current mediocre QB (Grossman) and draft a QB to groom (something he should've done last year). We may be in for a rough year, but at least we would have a young QB to build around for the future.
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Old 04-25-2011, 12:21 PM   #8
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Re: Would you be ok with...

I am fairly convinced that we will acquire Vince Young when it becomes possible. He is our starter next year.

But we need young QB blood. We need to draft a QB.

But we don't need to reach. Sometimes good QB value can be found later in the draft. So we should draft a QB some time after the first round.

For those calling for Luck, do you really want us to go 1-15, which is what it will take to be in a position to get Luck?
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Old 04-25-2011, 12:43 PM   #9
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I think we HAVE to draft a QB. We need soemone to develop and build an offense for the future. If we continue to wait until everything is perfect before plugging in a young guy (as alot of you suggest every draft and probably will next draft), we probably won't be in position to draft one as we will be a good team with later picks.

Get Jake Locker and get on with it.
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Old 04-25-2011, 12:46 PM   #10
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Not taking a QB at all in this draft?

Research shows that 2nd round QBs have been mostly disappointments, so unless you get a top flight guy in the 1st round it's basically a waste to take a QB in later rounds.

Do you trust the likes of Grossman or Beck? Or picking up a stop gap veteran such as Hasselbeck?
Completely fine with it. The QB talent in this draft is pedestrian with high-bust potential at the top tier (Newton, Gabbert, Locker).

It don't think any of the rookie QBs are better than Beck right now and won't be for at least a year or two.
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Old 04-25-2011, 01:09 PM   #11
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I'd take a QB outside of the first two picks unless there is a trade down. If we have 3 picks in the first three rounds one should be a QB. Otherwise, as Schneed said, trench guys at 1 and 2 and a late round QB (maybe even two).

Get the lines (and LB on defense) up to snuff THEN worry about the guy driving the machine.
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Old 04-25-2011, 02:02 PM   #12
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I'm perfectly fine with not taking a QB at all in this draft. We have a long way to go in building this team, so I like the idea of building the foundation which, to me, is the defense and the OL. We can get our QB next year.

If we don't take a QB, I'd like to see the Skins trade down at least once but preferably twice to get more picks. Or, perhaps they could do a deal which gets us a second first round pick next year. That would give us some ammo to try to trade up for Andrew Luck.
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Old 04-25-2011, 03:00 PM   #13
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I think the idea that we could trade up for Andrew Luck just needs to be forgotten right now. If a team is bad enough this coming year to earn the #1 overall pick (the pick it will take to get Andrew Luck) then that team is quite likely to need an answer at QB.

There's no way anybody trades out of that spot. It's just like Bradford with the Rams last year, they had offers on the table, but they saw him there and turned them all down.

The only way we get Andrew Luck next year is if we're the worst team in the NFL. That just won't happen.
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Old 04-25-2011, 03:36 PM   #14
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I think the idea that we could trade up for Andrew Luck just needs to be forgotten right now. If a team is bad enough this coming year to earn the #1 overall pick (the pick it will take to get Andrew Luck) then that team is quite likely to need an answer at QB.

There's no way anybody trades out of that spot. It's just like Bradford with the Rams last year, they had offers on the table, but they saw him there and turned them all down.

The only way we get Andrew Luck next year is if we're the worst team in the NFL. That just won't happen.


Why won't it? We're still the worst team in our division and we're only better than a few teams.
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Old 04-25-2011, 03:38 PM   #15
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Why won't it? We're still the worst team in our division and we're only better than a few teams.
We're playing the NFC West this year. As the Cardinals showed last year, despite being terrible only got as high as 5. We could very well suck this year but it won't be bad enough to get the number one overall pick. Our best chance is if out of nowhere the new CBA brings about a lottery system.


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I'm perfectly fine with not taking a QB at all in this draft. We have a long way to go in building this team, so I like the idea of building the foundation which, to me, is the defense and the OL. We can get our QB next year.
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Former Miami Dolphins team official Bill Parcells said he regrets drafting OT Jake Long over Atlanta Falcons QB Matt Ryan with the first overall pick in 2008, according to NFL.com. "Maybe, we should have (drafted Ryan instead)," Parcells, the Dolphins' former executive vice president of football operations, said. He also said the decision to draft former QB Pat White in the second round of the 2009 draft "violated our principles."
Bottom line, if you see a QB that you believe can be a franchise QB you don't pass on him because you don't have a perfect line to protect him. Falcons gave up something like 50+ sacks the year before they drafted Ryan.
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