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Old 07-20-2011, 03:32 PM   #1
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Re: Redskins 2011 Salary Cap Status

Best to just leave the cap stuff to the experts.
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Old 07-20-2011, 04:35 PM   #2
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Re: Redskins 2011 Salary Cap Status

Tripp, do you have a link to your source showing that we're at a cap number of $93 million now?

EDIT: Nevermind I see it now.

The link to Tandler, (who is apparently quoting Halsell), indicates that the Redskins current cap number is currently $93 million INCLUSIVE of Haynesworth and McNabb. That means Tandler/Halsell think we have $27 million in space even before jettisoning Haynesworth and McNabb.

Clayton however thinks we are $10 million under, and he surely isn't considering Haynesworth and McNabb gone at this point, so it's not those two bums that explain the big difference.

The only thing I can think of is Clayton is working from Haynesworth's unadjusted contract. But somehow somebody is very wrong, either Tandler/Halsell or Clayton are way off on their numbers.
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:16 PM   #3
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The only thing I can think of is Clayton is working from Haynesworth's unadjusted contract. But somehow somebody is very wrong, either Tandler/Halsell or Clayton are way off on their numbers.

Yeah thats what I kept saying to myself because I read a couple Clayton articles and they do not match up at all with the Redskins.com links I have been reading.

We have A LOT of money to sign people. The fans deserve one good free agency period. I don't care about quantity of players I just want quality. Whether its 2 superstars or 8 role players I just hope that our off season is effective. We should be able to patch quite a few holes.
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Tripp, do you have a link to your source showing that we're at a cap number of $93 million now?

EDIT: Nevermind I see it now.

The link to Tandler, (who is apparently quoting Halsell), indicates that the Redskins current cap number is currently $93 million INCLUSIVE of Haynesworth and McNabb. That means Tandler/Halsell think we have $27 million in space even before jettisoning Haynesworth and McNabb.

Clayton however thinks we are $10 million under, and he surely isn't considering Haynesworth and McNabb gone at this point, so it's not those two bums that explain the big difference.

The only thing I can think of is Clayton is working from Haynesworth's unadjusted contract. But somehow somebody is very wrong, either Tandler/Halsell or Clayton are way off on their numbers.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Halsell estimate is missing a lot of Santana Moss' deadcap total, which is a really significant total based on the Canuck spreadsheet. Same with Portis: we actually gain cap space by cutting Portis, but that's still a lot of deadcap involved. And there's the Atogwe deal as well that's on the LAST CBA, but may or may not be included in the various results.

Still, if you take the Clayton numbers and subtract McNabb's contract, the Redskins have more cap room then they'll actually need this year. The big idea is that, pending any bad FA contracts they may give out, the deadcap comes off the books for 2012, and there's a lot of cap space available to use on good players. Even DHall isn't going to be a cap liability when he's released.
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I really don't care how much we have or spend, just so long as what we DO spend - we spend on quality guys who will be more than a two year band-aid.
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Per ji halsell, individual teams have no cash minimum. The league has a cash minimum. If the minimum is not met, the cheap teams will be penalized.
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Per ji halsell, individual teams have no cash minimum. The league has a cash minimum. If the minimum is not met, the cheap teams will be penalized.
He tweeted that much earlier on in the negotiating process but has not since mentioned anything. More updated information has come out from Paolantonio, Schefter and Mortensen indicating it's a team by team floor.

I think the league-wide idea was a fleeting thought that didn't hold up over the course of negotiations.
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Nice breakdown S10
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Old 07-21-2011, 06:03 PM   #9
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Might as well put this here, training camp rosters will be expanded from 80 to 90 players
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They should just get rid of dead cap space and make it cash paid counts towards the cap.
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Old 07-26-2011, 03:04 AM   #11
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I have a question . In this year does the June the 1st designation still exist - i.e. the previous tool to push forward a portion of the cap hit to the following years for veterans cut after June the 1st .

I have seen a couple of people saying it doesn't apply this season and others (e.g AdamTJ13) insisting it did . What impact would this have on our cap situation and teams with a cap issue like the Cowboys ...
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Uh Oh, here we go again. DOOMSDAY. are we in cap hell? It seems like every year people like to say we are and then all the finageling starts.

JK.

I think we should be in pretty good shape to sign key items to help out the team. It's the teams like Dallas who will have to do some major contract work in order to keep players and bring in new ones.
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Re: Redskins 2011 Salary Cap Status

So, with all the trades, rookie and vet signings.... Where do the Redskins stand in cap room? Does anyone have a "roundabout" idea?
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So, with all the trades, rookie and vet signings.... Where do the Redskins stand in cap room? Does anyone have a "roundabout" idea?
Really tough to tell. From my perspective, the information out there (sources: Clayton at ESPN, and Tandler via JI Halsell) are too greatly in conflict to be certain what the starting point was.

From there, information is sketchy on the impact of trading McNabb, impact of releasing Rabach, and the impact of the new deals signed over the last few days because we don't have the contract details yet.

I think space remains to keep working but I don't know how much. I wouldn't be putting out a number right now.
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Really tough to tell. From my perspective, the information out there (sources: Clayton at ESPN, and Tandler via JI Halsell) are too greatly in conflict to be certain what the starting point was.

From there, information is sketchy on the impact of trading McNabb, impact of releasing Rabach, and the impact of the new deals signed over the last few days because we don't have the contract details yet.

I think space remains to keep working but I don't know how much. I wouldn't be putting out a number right now.
I feel incredibly confident in saying its in excess of 10 million. I know that's a big range: 10+ mil, but we've still got a basic offseasons worth of cap space to work with.

Kemoeatu also just released.
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