Portis for Larry Johnson

Redskins_P · 01-03-2005, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

There is no reason to trade Lavar Arrington nor Clinton Portis. Both are stars and when healthy, play like stars! Lavar is finally in a defense that suits his style and he just happened to sustain a hard injury to comeback with. Lets not send him up the river just yet!

The only players I think we could let go are Gardner and Morton....as far as bigger money deals!

Amen Skinsguy.....

FRPLG · 01-03-2005, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by djdunick

I heard an interesting rumor at the stadium yesterday that George Michael's of channel 4 is starting rumors of a Portis for Larry Johnson trade. Has anyone else heard that? Personally I think it would be terriffic. Johnson is more of the between the tackles back that Gibbs likes. Betts did a great job yesterday.

Clinton Portis is not a 'core Redskin' guy. He doesn't want to grind out the hard yards and doesn't have the heart to be on this team. He wants all the glory and only wants big plays not the '2 and 3 yard stuff' as he has stated in the past. What a mistake.

You sir are an idiot.

offiss · 01-03-2005, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by djdunick
I heard an interesting rumor at the stadium yesterday that George Michael's of channel 4 is starting rumors of a Portis for Larry Johnson trade. Has anyone else heard that? Personally I think it would be terriffic. Johnson is more of the between the tackles back that Gibbs likes. Betts did a great job yesterday.

Clinton Portis is not a 'core Redskin' guy. He doesn't want to grind out the hard yards and doesn't have the heart to be on this team. He wants all the glory and only wants big plays not the '2 and 3 yard stuff' as he has stated in the past. What a mistake.

You sir are an idiot.

I happen to agree with djdunick's assesment of Portis, I don't agree with the trade proposal though, i do not think Larry Johnson is anything special, he run's behind maybe the best offensive line in the game what do you think he would do behind our offensive line with his attitude that's a powder keg waiting to explode.

We should have dealt for Sean Alexander of seattle last year when he was available he can run inside and outside that is what Gibb's really need's.

djdunick · 01-03-2005, 01:58 PM

FRPLJ,

So sad that you have to resort to name calling, it really shows off your low IQ.

If you have faith in Portis you must be smokin' crack. He can't get us a touchdown in the red zone and doesn't want to run for the hard yards. I've also heard that he has been doing a lot of improvisation. FRPLJ if you don't know what improvisation means go to www. websters.com

DJDunick

Redskins_P · 01-03-2005, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by djdunick

FRPLJ,

So sad that you have to resort to name calling, it really shows off your low IQ.

If you have faith in Portis you must be smokin' crack. He can't get us a touchdown in the red zone and doesn't want to run for the hard yards. I've also heard that he has been doing a lot of improvisation. FRPLJ if you don't know what improvisation means go to www. websters.com

DJDunick

I must be a crackhead then.....I guess those 1300 yds he got were just given to him by the defenses.

djdunick · 01-03-2005, 02:48 PM

Redskin P,

How many touchdowns did Portis have, not many. One spectacular run on the first play from scrimmage. A bruising up the middle back is much more the style runner we need. Those 1,300 yards certainly weren't given to him he had an incredible number of carries.

With the game on the line in the 4th quarter and we're down at the 5 yard line I don't think Portis makes it in.

Redskins_P · 01-03-2005, 02:51 PM

I hear where you coming from DJ, but part of the problem was the o-line. You can't blame Portis if he doesn't have any holes to run through..

jdlea · 01-03-2005, 02:57 PM

Portis had 15 and 14 in his 2 seasons in Denver. I'm sure those weren't all from 20 yards out. He has to be doing something right.

MTK · 01-03-2005, 03:01 PM

This talk of Portis not running hard, not gaining the tough yards, etc., is just nonsense.

He had a ton of carries this year behind a very average offensive line and he held up very well under the circumstances.

How many games did he have with 30+ carries?

He's a tough guy for someone his size and I'm really confused over these claims that he lacks heart and determination.

If this "trade Portis" talk is going to last all offseason I think I just might shoot myself.

Redskins_P · 01-03-2005, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

This talk of Portis not running hard, not gaining the tough yards, etc., is just nonsense.

He had a ton of carries this year behind a very average offensive line and he held up very well under the circumstances.

How many games did he have with 30+ carries?

He's a tough guy for someone his size and I'm really confused over these claims that he lacks heart and determination.

If this "trade Portis" talk is going to last all offseason I think I just might shoot myself.

Matty, you better get that gun ready LOL

MTK · 01-03-2005, 03:09 PM

One good game by a backup and all of a sudden we should deal away a 23 year old RB with two 1500+ yard seasons and one 1300 yard season.

What a joke.

djdunick · 01-03-2005, 03:19 PM

Remember fellas/ladies that we gave up a ton to get him and he hasn't 'saved' the franchise. We got ripped on the deal for sure. A cover corner is much harder to come by then a quality runner. Every year Denver produces a runner that gets a ton of yards.

What I saw yesterday is the type of running that I'ld expect from a Gibbs team.

Redskins_P · 01-03-2005, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by djdunick

Remember fellas/ladies that we gave up a ton to get him and he hasn't 'saved' the franchise. We got ripped on the deal for sure. A cover corner is much harder to come by then a quality runner. Every year Denver produces a runner that gets a ton of yards.

What I saw yesterday is the type of running that I'ld expect from a Gibbs team.

I didn't know he was supposed to "save" our franchise. I thought Gibbs was supposed to do that.

What I saw yesterday was our backup running back going up against one of the worst defenses in the entire league.

BrudLee · 01-03-2005, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by djdunick

Remember fellas/ladies that we gave up a ton to get him and he hasn't 'saved' the franchise. We got ripped on the deal for sure. A cover corner is much harder to come by then a quality runner. Every year Denver produces a runner that gets a ton of yards.

What I saw yesterday is the type of running that I'ld expect from a Gibbs team.

I'm not sure how we "got ripped" on that deal. With our not-up-to Bailey-standards CB's, we had the number three defense in the league, number one in the conference. As a team we got six more INT's than Denver. And that stiff we picked up got 1300 yards, despite taking the last game off.

You can argue that Portis didn't live up to billing. I think the entire offense was a disappointment, not just #26.

djdunick · 01-03-2005, 03:54 PM

Brudleee,

Yes indeed the entire offense was a disappointment. A straight trade and I wouldn't think we got ripped but we also gave up a draft pick. Having to change blocking schemes and the like to fit him makes me believe that Portis really doesn't fit the Gibbs style offense

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01-03-2005, 12:40 PM	#18
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Originally Posted by djdunick I heard an interesting rumor at the stadium yesterday that George Michael's of channel 4 is starting rumors of a Portis for Larry Johnson trade. Has anyone else heard that? Personally I think it would be terriffic. Johnson is more of the between the tackles back that Gibbs likes. Betts did a great job yesterday. Clinton Portis is not a 'core Redskin' guy. He doesn't want to grind out the hard yards and doesn't have the heart to be on this team. He wants all the glory and only wants big plays not the '2 and 3 yard stuff' as he has stated in the past. What a mistake. You sir are an idiot. I happen to agree with djdunick's assesment of Portis, I don't agree with the trade proposal though, i do not think Larry Johnson is anything special, he run's behind maybe the best offensive line in the game what do you think he would do behind our offensive line with his attitude that's a powder keg waiting to explode. We should have dealt for Sean Alexander of seattle last year when he was available he can run inside and outside that is what Gibb's really need's.

01-03-2005, 01:58 PM	#19
djdunick Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Reisterstown, MD Age: 63 Posts: 141	FRPLJ, So sad that you have to resort to name calling, it really shows off your low IQ. If you have faith in Portis you must be smokin' crack. He can't get us a touchdown in the red zone and doesn't want to run for the hard yards. I've also heard that he has been doing a lot of improvisation. FRPLJ if you don't know what improvisation means go to www. websters.com DJDunick

01-03-2005, 02:48 PM	#21
djdunick Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Reisterstown, MD Age: 63 Posts: 141	Redskin P, How many touchdowns did Portis have, not many. One spectacular run on the first play from scrimmage. A bruising up the middle back is much more the style runner we need. Those 1,300 yards certainly weren't given to him he had an incredible number of carries. With the game on the line in the 4th quarter and we're down at the 5 yard line I don't think Portis makes it in.

01-03-2005, 02:51 PM	#22
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	I hear where you coming from DJ, but part of the problem was the o-line. You can't blame Portis if he doesn't have any holes to run through..

01-03-2005, 02:57 PM	#23
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	Portis had 15 and 14 in his 2 seasons in Denver. I'm sure those weren't all from 20 yards out. He has to be doing something right.

01-03-2005, 03:01 PM	#24
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	This talk of Portis not running hard, not gaining the tough yards, etc., is just nonsense. He had a ton of carries this year behind a very average offensive line and he held up very well under the circumstances. How many games did he have with 30+ carries? He's a tough guy for someone his size and I'm really confused over these claims that he lacks heart and determination. If this "trade Portis" talk is going to last all offseason I think I just might shoot myself.

01-03-2005, 03:09 PM	#26
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	One good game by a backup and all of a sudden we should deal away a 23 year old RB with two 1500+ yard seasons and one 1300 yard season. What a joke.

01-03-2005, 03:19 PM	#27
djdunick Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Reisterstown, MD Age: 63 Posts: 141	Remember fellas/ladies that we gave up a ton to get him and he hasn't 'saved' the franchise. We got ripped on the deal for sure. A cover corner is much harder to come by then a quality runner. Every year Denver produces a runner that gets a ton of yards. What I saw yesterday is the type of running that I'ld expect from a Gibbs team.

01-03-2005, 03:54 PM	#30
djdunick Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Reisterstown, MD Age: 63 Posts: 141	Brudleee, Yes indeed the entire offense was a disappointment. A straight trade and I wouldn't think we got ripped but we also gave up a draft pick. Having to change blocking schemes and the like to fit him makes me believe that Portis really doesn't fit the Gibbs style offense

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