2012 QB Class

SolidSnake84 · 10-19-2011, 09:35 PM

Let's say the redskins go 4 and 12, or even worse 3 and 13....it is completley possible in Washington....would that record still not be bad enough to get Andrew Luck?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing for that at all, but just curious on just how bad a team needs to be in order to get the 1st round, 1st overall pick.

Hog1 · 10-19-2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Let's say the redskins go 4 and 12, or even worse 3 and 13....it is completley possible in Washington....would that record still not be bad enough to get Andrew Luck?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing for that at all, but just curious on just how bad a team needs to be in order to get the 1st round, 1st overall pick.

I'd ban your "Suck For Luck" ass......

SmootSmack · 10-19-2011, 10:42 PM

http://cnnsi.printthis.clickability....1418/index.htm

Dirtbag59 · 10-20-2011, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Boise State's Kellen Moore is as imposing as a grocery - 10.24.11 - SI Vault

Thank you. I've been looking for an opinion from a big name scout. Mostly everything else I've heard has been from Bleacher Report types.

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ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. says Moore is "at best, a late-round pick." The scout quoted earlier, a Moore fan, ticked off his two most commonly cited shortcomings: size and arm strength. On the subject of size, it wasn't so much Moore's height that concerned him as his lack of bulk. The scout wonders if the quarterback, at 191 pounds, can handle the pummeling he'd take in the league.

Granted Kiper has been wrong before but a big part of his research comes from conversations with NFL scouts so I have to imagine that that grade for Moore is rooted partly in how he is viewed by NFL front office personnel.

3Card · 10-19-2011, 10:55 PM

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Initial Rankings
1. Andrew Luck - Stanford
2. Landry Jones* - Oklahoma
3. Matt Barkley* - USC
4. Nick Folles - Arizona
5. Robert Griffin III* - Baylor

* - Denotes underclassmen.

Have at it

Luck is an underclassmen. He could return to Stanford for one more season.

Dirtbag59 · 10-19-2011, 11:39 PM

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Luck is an underclassmen. He could return to Stanford for one more season.

My bad ESPN for some reason list him as a Senior on his player card. On the other hand I did not know this bit of trivia.

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Luck was born in Washington, D.C.,[3] the son of Oliver Luck, current athletic director and a former quarterback at West Virginia University and former NFL quarterback for the Houston Oilers, and Kathy Wilson Luck. Andrew Luck spent his early childhood in London, England and Frankfurt, Germany, where his father was general manager of two World League of American Football teams prior to becoming president of the league. He is the oldest of four children, Mary Ellen, Emily, and Addison, who currently reside in Houston, Texas. In London, he attended The American School in London.[4]

Is it fate?

Bucket · 10-20-2011, 04:06 AM

I really think Kellen Moore is the best option for us to draft. He plays under center, and sells a great PA. He's highly accurate, and is a proven winner

mlmdub130 · 10-20-2011, 06:48 AM

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I really think Kellen Moore is the best option for us to draft. He plays under center, and sells a great PA. He's highly accurate, and is a proven winner

only seen a limited amount of him this year but his acuracy is amazing from what i have seen. i don't think he will slip as far back in thee draft as people think, i could easily see him going in the 3rd or 4th. kid has a hell of an arm Kellen Moore Stats, News, Videos, Pictures, Bio - Boise State Broncos - ESPN

#56fanatic · 10-20-2011, 07:58 AM

No one has mentioned the kid from Michigan St. Curt Cousins has a strong arm has been playing in a pro type system and can make ALL the throws. He isn't have a spectacular year this year, but he really isn't surrounded by a great team and suspect Oline. I have a feeling when the season is over and the combine starts he will quickly move up to the top 3 QB's in the draft.

If he is coming out. Not sure if he is a junior or senior

SmootSmack · 10-20-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

My bad ESPN for some reason list him as a Senior on his player card. On the other hand I did not know this bit of trivia.

Is it fate?

He is a Senior, but he also has one more year of eligibility left. So if you want to call him a redshirt junior I suppose that's fine too.

Longtimefan · 11-05-2011, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 3Card

Luck is an underclassmen. He could return to Stanford for one more season.

This regime has never drafted an underclassmen.

GusFrerotte · 10-19-2011, 11:56 PM

I rather see us go for Tannhill or Barkely. Isn't the Wisconsin QB a senior? I like RGIII, but I want to see him play the bigger boys before I want him on the Skins. Outside of Oklahoma, OSU, and Tex A&M, the Big 12 sucks as bad as the Big Ten this season. To be honest from what I have witnessed, I rather get the kid from Wisconsin over RGIII.

redsk1 · 10-20-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I rather see us go for Tannhill or Barkely. Isn't the Wisconsin QB a senior? I like RGIII, but I want to see him play the bigger boys before I want him on the Skins. Outside of Oklahoma, OSU, and Tex A&M, the Big 12 sucks as bad as the Big Ten this season. To be honest from what I have witnessed, I rather get the kid from Wisconsin over RGIII.

Russell Wilson is a senior. He wants to play in the NFL (was drafted to play baseball too). I wouldn't count him out. I don't think he's very tall which will turn alot of scouts off. We'll see. Richmond guy though.

SkinzWin · 10-20-2011, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I rather see us go for Tannhill or Barkely. Isn't the Wisconsin QB a senior? I like RGIII, but I want to see him play the bigger boys before I want him on the Skins. Outside of Oklahoma, OSU, and Tex A&M, the Big 12 sucks as bad as the Big Ten this season. To be honest from what I have witnessed, I rather get the kid from Wisconsin over RGIII.

Russell Wilson, 5th year senior and transfer from NC State. From my hometown of Richmond. Went to Collegiate (a private school). ESPN had a really good show about him. He is playing really well for the Badgers this year.

ESPN's 'Depth Chart' offers inside look at Russell Wilson, Wisconsin

Landry44 · 10-22-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Russell Wilson, 5th year senior and transfer from NC State. From my hometown of Richmond. Went to Collegiate (a private school). ESPN had a really good show about him. He is playing really well for the Badgers this year.

ESPN's 'Depth Chart' offers inside look at Russell Wilson, Wisconsin

The man only 5'11. He's way to small to play qb in this league.

10-19-2011, 09:35 PM	#1
SolidSnake84 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA Posts: 2,953	Re: 2012 QB Class Let's say the redskins go 4 and 12, or even worse 3 and 13....it is completley possible in Washington....would that record still not be bad enough to get Andrew Luck? Don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing for that at all, but just curious on just how bad a team needs to be in order to get the 1st round, 1st overall pick. __________________ Time to nut up or shut up

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Bucket Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 3,881	Re: 2012 QB Class I really think Kellen Moore is the best option for us to draft. He plays under center, and sells a great PA. He's highly accurate, and is a proven winner __________________ I need something to cheer about Redskin Fan since '88 Be friends on Twitter! @thecasualhero

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#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 52 Posts: 1,801	Re: 2012 QB Class No one has mentioned the kid from Michigan St. Curt Cousins has a strong arm has been playing in a pro type system and can make ALL the throws. He isn't have a spectacular year this year, but he really isn't surrounded by a great team and suspect Oline. I have a feeling when the season is over and the combine starts he will quickly move up to the top 3 QB's in the draft. If he is coming out. Not sure if he is a junior or senior

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GusFrerotte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 4,153	Re: 2012 QB Class I rather see us go for Tannhill or Barkely. Isn't the Wisconsin QB a senior? I like RGIII, but I want to see him play the bigger boys before I want him on the Skins. Outside of Oklahoma, OSU, and Tex A&M, the Big 12 sucks as bad as the Big Ten this season. To be honest from what I have witnessed, I rather get the kid from Wisconsin over RGIII.

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