Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

The bills had 6 sacks total this year. They had 6 in the game (maybe more)...that says enough right there. Beck is NOT our future QB. Defense, played awful in the run game, which is what their known for is being good at stopping the run...not today!

we knew he wasn't our future when we signed him though. I just don't understand why so anxious to see the upside of a 30 year old that's been passed over 2 or 3 times by QB hungry teams and couldn't find a way onto the field.

not that this loss was his fault, but he sure didn't help.

[KI Skins Fan]

Oh, I don't know about diluting the smackdown by spreading it around to the entire team. Not when the OL set a team record (9) for sacks allowed against a team that only had 4 sacks for the entire season coming into the game. I'd say that deserves special mention.

[diehard]

I'm smaking down the mods, the fans, hell even myself for believing this team was any good. The Shanahans are on the hot seat for real.

And take that damn devil off the page too! Sheesh.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by diehard

I'm smaking down the mods, the fans, hell even myself for believing this team was any good. The Shanahans are on the hot seat for real.

And take that damn devil off the page too! Sheesh.

You really want the Shanahan's gone? That's so Snyder-esqe of you. Hasn't that been our problem over the last 15 years...impantience. We've been a crappy organization for a long time...we're rebuilding...at least we're rebuilding.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by redsk1

You really want the Shanahan's gone? That's so Snyder-esqe of you. Hasn't that been our problem over the last 15 years...impantience. We've been a crappy organization for a long time...we're rebuilding...at least we're rebuilding.

Yeah, I was opposed to the Shanny hire and sadly I feel that my opinion has been vindicated. But yet another knee-jerk change of regimes probably won't fare any better than what we've got now.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Yeah, I was opposed to the Shanny hire and sadly I feel that my opinion has been vindicated. But yet another knee-jerk change of regimes probably won't fare any better than what we've got now.

IF the guys sucks, can his ass. The guy and his son don't make halftime adjustments, are horrific play callers, and are morons in getting us in this QB pickle we are now in. The guy is conceited beyond belief in thinking he could convert a BYU retread into a bona fide franchise QB, much less a real starter. I might have to really make waves in here and start a bring back Norv thread!!!!!!

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

IF the guys sucks, can his ass. The guy and his son don't make halftime adjustments, are horrific play callers, and are morons in getting us in this QB pickle we are now in. The guy is conceited beyond belief in thinking he could convert a BYU retread into a bona fide franchise QB, much less a real starter. I might have to really make waves in here and start a bring back Norv thread!!!!!!

Ok fine. You'll get no great defense of Shanny Duck and Baby Huey from me...

[diehard]

Keep Allen. Fire the Shanahans and "Has-been" Haslett.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by diehard

Keep Allen. Fire the Shanahans and "Has-been" Haslett.

I am more rational now than my earlier post, but i do believe the Shanahans may be fired at some point this season if this team continues to regress each week like it has been doing.

If they are kept to the end of the season, then we need to be smart. We will most likely get to draft Andrew Luck, and we can use our remainder draft picks on offensive linemen.

We need to try and stay calm...

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I am more rational now than my earlier post, but i do believe the Shanahans may be fired at some point this season if this team continues to regress each week like it has been doing.

If they are kept to the end of the season, then we need to be smart. We will most likely get to draft Andrew Luck, and we can use our remainder draft picks on offensive linemen.

We need to try and stay calm...

You talk about being smart, then say we will most likely get to draft Andrew Luck. I believe a smart person would realize that we have 3 more wins than the two worst teams in the NFL, one of which (the Colts) look almost guaranteed to lose every remaining game this season. How do you see us finishing with more losses than the Colts or Dolphins? Sorry bro but in this season of historical ineptitude across the NFL, we still have a long way to go to be considered in position to grab Luck.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

You talk about being smart, then say we will most likely get to draft Andrew Luck. I believe a smart person would realize that we have 3 more wins than the two worst teams in the NFL, one of which (the Colts) look almost guaranteed to lose every remaining game this season. How do you see us finishing with more losses than the Colts or Dolphins? Sorry bro but in this season of historical ineptitude across the NFL, we still have a long way to go to be considered in position to grab Luck.

I hear alotta people saying something similiar to this. It is too early to speculate on draft order and what not, but any team who wants a player bad enough, a package can be placed together to go and get that player. The Falcons did it last year and yeah we can debate the move, but thats the guy they wanted. If we are around the same spot as last year, its not outta the question offering our spot, next year's first, and additional picks to move up to grab the guy. Luck is pretty gud, nothing is guarenteed, but he seems to be special.

[WilbursHomie]

You gotta see Shanahan's plan through to the end. No matter if it works or leads us in even deeper. Good coaches will want to coach for an owner that gives them control and has deep pockets and let's them develop their team. Not one wants to work for an owner that has no faith in his coaches. For the sake of our next coach, we have to stay the course with this coach.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by WilbursHomie

You gotta see Shanahan's plan through to the end. No matter if it works or leads us in even deeper. Good coaches will want to coach for an owner that gives them control and has deep pockets and let's them develop their team. Not one wants to work for an owner that has no faith in his coaches. For the sake of our next coach, we have to stay the course with this coach.

I'm with you. MS signed a 5 yr deal and he should be given the 5 yrs. I'm so tired of the 2 and out HC's. None get a chance to empliment their scheme before being fired for the next great thing to not do anything.

This team had no developed players thanks to Cerrato. Give the new coaching staff the time to get all the pieces. MS is proven. He took the Bronco's to the SB twice and went as a 49er.

[GMScud]

You know, I've beaten the whole "rebuilding" drum for a while now, too. But I think I'm done with that. I know Shanahan was handed a pile of dogsh*t when he took over this team. Fair enough. But there are plenty of teams that go from very poor one year to playoff caliber the next. Look no further than this week's opponent. San Fran was a bad team last year. They're 6-1 and a near shoe-in to win their division at this point. And they're doing it with Alex Smith and for the most part a no-name offense. Sure their D is solid, but still. They're 6-1.

Shanahan has had his hands on this team for nearly two years. The defense seems to be heading the right direction, but the offense seems to be getting worse each week.

It was Mike and Kyle's decision to ride with the Rex/Beck train. Fail. It was their decision to ride with this garbage O-line bereft of any depth to speak of. Fail.

I know we're 3 wins "better" than the worst teams in the league after week 8, but I don't think we're really too far away from the St Louis and Miami's of the world.

We haven't had a franchise QB since, who, Joey Sunshine? Until we get one, it will be the same thing over and over, year after year.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You know, I've beaten the whole "rebuilding" drum for a while now, too. But I think I'm done with that. I know Shanahan was handed a pile of dogsh*t when he took over this team. Fair enough. But there are plenty of teams that go from very poor one year to playoff caliber the next. Look no further than this week's opponent. San Fran was a bad team last year. They're 6-1 and a near shoe-in to win their division at this point. And they're doing it with Alex Smith and for the most part a no-name offense. Sure their D is solid, but still. They're 6-1.

I think Harbaugh did a good job sticking with Smith. I think he's mediocre performance in the past we pretty similar to Campbell, yet Harbaugh kept him around. I wish Shanahan would have stuck with Campbell during the rebuilding process. Had that happen, maybe we could have gotten our QB of the future sooner rather than later. Anything would have been better than wasting picks on McNabb and setting the franchise back a year.