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[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Time to 'Occupy Valley Ranch' until Jerry goes

I'm loving this shit....






This asshole really went down to the sideline to "advise" his head coach? This guy ran a oil surveying business, he has no idea how to run a football team. We can only hope this keeps up. I'm loving to see this as a Skins fan.

You do know that Jerry Jones was the captain of the Arkansas football team that won the National Championship back in the 60s, right? Oh, and Jimmy Johnson was his teammate - - and I think they were fraternity brothers also - - at Arkansas.

He did indeed run an oil service business; that is where he made the money it took to buy the Cowboys. But Jones did play the game at a fairly high level.

Having said all that, I doubt that his "advice" was of any value to Jason Garrett who was probably juggling ten balls in the air at the same time. But do not make the mistake of assuming that Jerry Jones knows nothing about football the way many NFL owners know nothing about football.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

You do know that Jerry Jones was the captain of the Arkansas football team that won the National Championship back in the 60s, right? Oh, and Jimmy Johnson was his teammate - - and I think they were fraternity brothers also - - at Arkansas.

He did indeed run an oil service business; that is where he made the money it took to buy the Cowboys. But Jones did play the game at a fairly high level.

Having said all that, I doubt that his "advice" was of any value to Jason Garrett who was probably juggling ten balls in the air at the same time. But do not make the mistake of assuming that Jerry Jones knows nothing about football the way many NFL owners know nothing about football.

I am always highly amused at the general opinion of many fan bases of their idiot, know nothing, etc....owners. I'm thinking...you do know this dude is a self-made Billionaire? He may actually know a thing or two....

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I am always higly amused at the general opinion of many fan bases of their idiot, know nothing, etc....owners. I'm thinking...you do know this dude is a self-made Billionaire? He may actually know a thing or two....

Believe me, I will be the first to acknowledge that the folks who own NFL teams are intelligent people who know an awful lot about the business world - - plenty more than a thing or two.

I do draw a distinction between "being smart and knowledgeable" and "knowing football" in the sense that the very rich owner can actually sit down and discuss "football" with his head coach or his assistants. The majority of NFL owners cannot do that without a lot of tolerance on the part of the coaches involved.

The only two owners in the NFL that I can think of who played football at the elite college level or at the pro level are Jerry Jones and Jerry Richardson.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

The only two owners in the NFL that I can think of who played football at the elite college level or at the pro level are Jerry Jones and Jerry Richardson.

You need to add Mike Brown to that list. He is the son of the great Paul Brown after all, and no doubt has had his share of football knowledge passed on to him.

[NC_Skins]

NFL referee Tony Corrente is fighting a brave battle with cancer | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports

Good story.

[NC_Skins]

The NY Jets are a hot mess right now.

NY Jets players bash Mark Sanchez, say they want Peyton Manning and GM Mike Tannenbaum should trade young quarterback away - NY Daily News

“We have to bring in another quarterback that will make him work at practice,” said one player. “He’s lazy and content because he knows he’s not going to be benched.”

A Jets spokesman declined to make Sanchez available for this story. A source close to the team pointed out that Sanchez’s inability to handle mounting criticism prompted him to unfollow every Jets beat writer on Twitter earlier this season.

“They see the organization babying him,” said a Jets source. “They see him with a sense of entitlement. He’s been given all this and hasn’t done anything. They call him ‘San-chise.’ They make him the face of the organization. They gave him the captain tag. He’s not a captain. He should have never been a captain.”

None of the players who spoke to the Daily News for this story agreed with Ryan’s decision to anoint Sanchez as a captain.

No thanks to trading for this guy. Nothing worse than a QB with a bad work ethic and shaky confidence.


Also, seems Rex Ryan doesn't know how to spot leaders or award the correct people with captains. I suppose he's basing it off salaries.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

You do know that Jerry Jones was the captain of the Arkansas football team that won the National Championship back in the 60s, right? Oh, and Jimmy Johnson was his teammate - - and I think they were fraternity brothers also - - at Arkansas.

He did indeed run an oil service business; that is where he made the money it took to buy the Cowboys. But Jones did play the game at a fairly high level.

Ok, so he played football some 40 years ago. What type of scouting or football operations did he run after those 40 years while he was running a oil surveying company? What type of coaching experience does he have to make personnel decisions or understand which players are going to fit which schemes? What type of film/scouting experience makes him qualified to say who's better than another?

Him playing college football on a national championship team back in the 60's doesn't mean jack squat, and doesn't do anything to back up your argument he does in fact know football.

Just because a person was successful in one area of their life, doesn't mean they are going to be successful in another area. Dan Snyder was awesome at the phone slamming business, but he sucks as a NFL owner. (or has in the past decade)

The only years Jerry has been successful, are the years that Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells (and their talent) were there. That is no coincidence.

Originally Posted by Hog1

I am always highly amused at the general opinion of many fan bases of their idiot, know nothing, etc....owners. I'm thinking...you do know this dude is a self-made Billionaire? He may actually know a thing or two....

See above. Success in one area doesn't mean success in another.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Ok, so he played football some 40 years ago. What type of scouting or football operations did he run after those 40 years while he was running a oil surveying company? What type of coaching experience does he have to make personnel decisions or understand which players are going to fit which schemes? What type of film/scouting experience makes him qualified to say who's better than another?

Him playing college football on a national championship team back in the 60's doesn't mean jack squat, and doesn't do anything to back up your argument he does in fact know football.

Just because a person was successful in one area of their life, doesn't mean they are going to be successful in another area. Dan Snyder was awesome at the phone slamming business, but he sucks as a NFL owner. (or has in the past decade)

The only years Jerry has been successful, are the years that Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells (and their talent) were there. That is no coincidence.



See above. Success in one area doesn't mean success in another.

No it does not, BUT when you are a self made Billionaire (like many of his counterparts) it does mean you know a thing or two about success...and plenty of it. To amass that kind of loot does require a certain ability to succeed above all else....improvise....adapt....overcome
AND fans get so little real information it is completely irresponsible to judge him on what little we see or....think we know.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I am always highly amused at the general opinion of many fan bases of their idiot, know nothing, etc....owners. I'm thinking...you do know this dude is a self-made Billionaire? He may actually know a thing or two....

Like what?Dan Snyder failed and lost everything more then once before he hit it big.In JJ case just becuase you know Oil does'nt mean you know football.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Like what?Dan Snyder failed and lost everything more then once before he hit it big.In JJ case just becuase you know Oil does'nt mean you know football.

No....but it does mean you know success and how to build it in everything you do. Do you deny his success in the NFL? If I had to make a choice who gets the nod in a....football discussion between JJ and the avg fan, such as yourself.
Based on spelling and punctuation alone, JJ wins is by a landslide......

[skinsfaninok]

Pats 23
Broncos 17

Texans 21
Ravens 14

Giants 28
Packers 24

Saints 31
49ERS 17

[NC_Skins]

Saints over the 49ers.

Giants over the Packers.


Ravens crush the Texans.


Patriots over the Broncos.

[mredskins]

wow lots on the Texans bandwagon, care to chime in why?

I think if HOU O shows up there D can easily slam the door shut on Flacco. If B-more is one and done this year the mass suicides around here will be through the roof.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by mredskins

wow lots on the Texans bandwagon, care to chime in why?

I think if HOU O shows up there D can easily slam the door shut on Flacco. If B-more is one and done this year the mass suicides around here will be through the roof.

I picked Houston to go to the SB week 17.. I just love their defense and they do 2 things as good as anyone, Run the football and stop the run. Also AJ80 is a nightmare for that AVG. CB play of Baltimore.. And quite frankly I think flacco just isnt any good

[NC_Skins]

Detroit Lions facing big contract decisions in offseason - ESPN

Ouch. Contract year for Megatron. I seriously don't know if you can invest a $100 million dollar contract in a WR when you have a franchise QB who'll be getting top dollar soon, and a stud DL who's already getting top dollar.


I blame the Cardinals for this crap. ****ing idiot owners out there.