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Old 06-05-2012, 11:47 AM   #1
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How many multi-billion dollar companies hire part time workers who directly affect the products they sell?

In alot of cases the board of directors have a lot of power and are part time employees. I was just answering your question.
Thought experiment: how many board of directors actually directly effect the products their companies sell?
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Old 06-04-2012, 03:15 PM   #2
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The refs do a bad job imo. Too flag happy. Maybe the replacements will do a better job.
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:16 AM   #3
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The refs do a bad job imo. Too flag happy. Maybe the replacements will do a better job.
that's the point
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:58 AM   #4
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The refs do a bad job imo. Too flag happy. Maybe the replacements will do a better job.
Yeah the backup official who don't have anything better to do (meaning they don't have a job as a ref currently) will be better.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:28 AM   #5
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Yeah the backup official who don't have anything better to do (meaning they don't have a job as a ref currently) will be better.
I guess I just want less flags thrown. It's become a flag happy league and the games are becoming way too long. Not sure if replacing the old guys will improve things but it can't be any worse.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:38 AM   #6
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I guess I just want less flags thrown. It's become a flag happy league and the games are becoming way too long. Not sure if replacing the old guys will improve things but it can't be any worse.
It can definitely be worse. The solution to the problem you mention is to reform veteran refs, not to throw a bunch of inexperienced folks into the fray.
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It can definitely be worse. The solution to the problem you mention is to reform veteran refs, not to throw a bunch of inexperienced folks into the fray.
Agreed. We need professionals and we need people who have demonstrated their impartiality.

I wouldn't want me reffing a game between the Skins and Cow-whores.... Ok, I would but it would be pretty lopsided and obvious after I've ejected 51 of the team in blue and white.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:46 AM   #8
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I guess I just want less flags thrown. It's become a flag happy league and the games are becoming way too long. Not sure if replacing the old guys will improve things but it can't be any worse.
It's flag happy for a variety of reasons like:

- they keep adding rules
- the players are more athletic and capable than ever resulting in virtual parity on every play meaning players continue to seek advantages
- there is some weird cultural need to "perfect" the game that seemingly everyone supports including the league, players coaches and fans

None of this is because the refs as a whole are bad.

The replacement refs will be required to call the game similarly...they'll just not be as good at it. Could mean even MORE flags.
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:14 PM   #9
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I guess I just want less flags thrown. It's become a flag happy league and the games are becoming way too long. Not sure if replacing the old guys will improve things but it can't be any worse.
You say that now until the Redskins get screwed over by being fouled and the refs do not call it.
Orakpo gets held a half dozen times during a game and it does not get called. I think the culture in the NFL of cheating just enough so you do not get called for it needs to change before you start telling refs not to call certain fouls. Then the refs will not have to throw so many flags.

Like in soccer if the foul merits it they get yellow carded. After two yellows in one game you get kicked out of that game and suspended for another game.
That would stop the cheating and subsequent flags quickly.
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You say that now until the Redskins get screwed over by being fouled and the refs do not call it.
Orakpo gets held a half dozen times during a game and it does not get called. I think the culture in the NFL of cheating just enough so you do not get called for it needs to change before you start telling refs not to call certain fouls. Then the refs will not have to throw so many flags.

Like in soccer if the foul merits it they get yellow carded. After two yellows in one game you get kicked out of that game and suspended for another game.
That would stop the cheating and subsequent flags quickly.
I think the bad calls even out most of the time.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:33 PM   #11
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The refs do a bad job imo. Too flag happy. Maybe the replacements will do a better job.
Could happen - - but don't bet on it.

There have been replacement refs in MLB, the NBA and the NHL in the past and none of them has done a good job.

The NFL once had replacement refs - - I think it was 2001 but don't hold me to that - - and before one of the games, one of the replacement refs went up to Jerry Rice and asked Rice for his autograph. Just a guess, but that guy is probably not going to get a call-back from the league this time around.

You may think that the NFL refs "do a bad job". I suspect that if the NFL replaces them with guys who have been officiating in the Sun Belt Conference and/or some Division III conference, things will NOT get better.

Oh, and by the way, the NFL has already said that it will NOT be trying to poach replacement refs from the "top conferences" in college football so forget about the guys who do SEC or Big Ten or PAC-12 games.

I officiated sports for 37 years. I did more basketball than all the other sports combined - -but I did a little football too. I officated games played by "kids" as compared to the NFL where the game is played by "adults".

When I was the best official that I could be, I could not have been plucked by the NFL to be given a three month indoctrination program and then gone out and done anyting but embarrass myself on national TV and in front of about 60,000 attendees.
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Didn't we have replacement refs a few years back?
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Didn't we have replacement refs a few years back?
The start of the 2001 season. Maybe other times.
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