My Master Plan

[SKINSnCANES]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I think we should sign Ike Hilliard also, he is a good #2 reciever, thats if the trade with Coles for Moss cant be made, we dont have to draft a WR unless Troy Williamson is on the board still, I believe instead of giving rolle that much money, we should draft A.Rolle or E.James.



My top 5 choices for our #9 Pick.
1.A.Rolle
2.T.Williamson
3.E.James
4.M.Clayton
5.Trade Down

welcome to the board, and I like you already. Folks, we have our first person to agree with me on Rolle. I almost think we should save our money, draft rolle, and let him play nickel back behind harris to start the year. He wont stay there long though. This guy is already playing on a prolevel and is prepared to cover nfl receivers.

Think about it guys, this guy was a top 15 pick, if he came out last year. He goes to Miami, and said he wanted to come back for another year and become the best corner in college football. He didnt win that award, but they even said that he was a better corner than rogers but no one threw to his side of the field for him to prove it. He was the only person to shut down fitzgerald the year before last.

Im pretty sure that Hall got picked 9th last year, anyone know his contract details. Im sure its a lot cheaper than what smoot or the other rolle want.

[SKINSnCANES]

I personally still think we alreayd have the talent on offense, and that our huge problem is play calling. And the fact that Coles asked to leave makes me worry more that gibbs is going to do the same shit next year. So even if we add Williams, Edwards and Williamson I dont see it making a huge impact. Plus, Jacobs needs to be given a shot.

Our defense is great, we are deep at safety already, and have good backup corners. I just look at what the Ravens and Bucs did and think that if we take our defense from great, to elite, we instantly make our team a top contender in the league. Thats why I dont want us to plug in marshall like we did pierce. Im sure he would do a good job, but I dont want soemone to just be plugged into a system. i would love to see us take the defense to another level and just have playmakers play in a system, not average talent play in a system.

[SKINSnCANES]

ok, mabye im wrong. I just spent a while trying to find halls contract. Its a six year 25 million dollar deal with a 13 million dollar signing bonus, more than they gave vick when he was picked first. And hall was picked 8th, not 9th. So at 9 its still a lot of money, perhaps as much as smoot or rolle, in terms of guaranteed money atleast.

[jrocx69]

i highly doubt we are gonna shove a 220lb marshall at MLB. if we dont get barrow back, i think we might have some changes with what we have. brandon barnes or marcus moving over to middle and marshall playing weak and arrington playing strong. the fa market for mlbs are to much and gregg has a knack for rejuvenating mlbs. barrow, fletcher, pierce. is barnes next?

[Daseal]

Geh - don't move Arrington to strong - let him play weakside. I don't want to move Washington or Arrington. They're in their perfect positions.

[SKINSnCANES]

yea I agree, Arrington will be ever better at weakside. He didnt get much of a chance last year to play it. But I do agree we need to get someone else to play in the middle

[jrocx69]

wow, i stand corrected, the times just reported marshall is the new middle man? wow, talk about undersized for a mlb

[Monksdown]

Originally Posted by jrocx69

wow, i stand corrected, the times just reported marshall is the new middle man? wow, talk about undersized for a mlb

Dat nguyen is undersized. And people compare him to a running back type of linebacker. He weaves in and out, avoiding blockers. It can work, because it has before. The key at that position is instinct and intelligence mostly anyway.

[monk81]

Originally Posted by Monksdown

Dat nguyen is undersized. And people compare him to a running back type of linebacker. He weaves in and out, avoiding blockers. It can work, because it has before. The key at that position is instinct and intelligence mostly anyway.

Good point Monk.......hey from one Monk fan to another..........

[That Guy]

williams would be too good to pass up if he's available... I really rather resign smoot or get rolle, simply for injury insurance if nothing else. Wilds looked good FOR ONE GAME, so i consider him promising, but untested... i think GW wants 4 good corners at all times though, 3 for nickel and a 4th for injuries... we had a problem where we didn't have enough CBs last year for a couple plays, so ade jimoh went in and got burnt... i rather not see that happen again. btw, bowen sucks in coverage, but ryan clark wasn't that bad once he got a couple games under his belt.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

Heres my plan for the rest of free agency and the draft. A lot of people are saying we need to worry about our offense becuase they needed the most help. I saw we beef up our defense even more. Defense wins championships and we are a few peopel away from having a dominating defense.

First, we sign Kendrel Bell or Ed Hartwell. Think about that... Lavar Arrington, Marcus Washington, and either of those two. I mean damn... name a better set of linebackers in the league?!?!?

Next, we address our need at corner. Theres plenty of threads about this so all I am going to say is you either resign Smoot, or sign Rolle. Either way that gives us two great corners, plus Harris used to be a starter for the Colts and proved to be one of the better nickel backs in the league.

Next, we gotta get more pressure with our dline, but I dont see us really making many changes here. I think Daniells will get another shot and Griffin just keeps getting better. Our dline stops the run amazingly, but lacks in the pass rush department. By stopping the run we force them to pass though, which is bring me to my next point.

We draft Antrel Rolle and play him at safety. If we sign Rolle (samari) we have two aging corner backs. They are great now but will both be over 30 in a few years. Rolle had his proday today, he ran 4.5 in the 40. Just imagine how sick our secondary would be with Rolle and Taylor...We could do sooo many cool things. Rolle looked a lot like Springs last year. No one would throw to his side of the field, he flat out shut it down. I say he looked like Springs becuase to compensate for teams not looking his way, he would blitz a lot, and would shut down the run. So with him and Taylor we coudl blitz both our corners and not miss a beat in coverage.

Our lack of pass rush from our front four means we get creative with blitzing other people. Whose going to throw on Springs, Rolle, Rolle, Taylor.... with Arrington, Washington and Hartwell or Bell blitzing....

We would have a defense that would be remembered for years.

With all that being said, I dont see us drafting Rolle and moving him to safety. When I started writing this I forgot about Bowen since he was injured all year. Rolle would be a huge upgrade. None of the other people that we have to play strong safety are good in coverage. Bowen can hit but Id rather have two play makers back there.

I think this is an amazing idea for us. We arent makign any changes at QB or RB. Our oline is great now. Cooley is a solid prospect. We might add a guy like Pollard thats a great blocker with good redzone hands. The only issue people are having is our wrs. Coles is staying or getting traded for another number one guy. Patten is now our number two. The coaches love Thrash and Jacobs shows a lot of promise. I would bet money that we do not draft a receiver. We just have to many guys at that position that need to get a chance. If we draft a guy then we might as well cut Jacobs. Jacobs was projected to be a first round draft choice but we are always so deep at wr he hasnt been able to play, plus he was injured as a rookie.


Anyhow guys, sound off, say I only want Rolle because hes a cane if you want. But my gut says we draft defense and make our defense go from great, to elite.

I don't agree with this master plan at all. The skins lost Pierce over money, so now they should pay significantly more money to Bell? And we already tried the "best set of LB's" in the league scenario a few years ago and it got us to 6-10.

Next we are signing Samari Rolle for the same or probably more money if we lose Smoot? And then we are drafting a CB from the U and moving him to safety, which would mean that about 50% of the salary cap might be taken up by CB's after we spend 15 mil on Samari ROlle and then draft another Rolle to play safety or nickle back. Add in Sean Taylor and Springs and this might be the most expensive secondary in the history of the NFL.

The plan also leaves us with a WR trio of Coles or Moss AS #1, along with Patten #2 & Jacobs/Thrash #3. How many games are we winning with this reincarnation of the smurfs? After spending the 1st round pick on another CB we don't have the pick to draft the big WR that we need opposite Coles/Moss.

Sorry, I just don't like the plan.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Most definitely. Someone said that Marshall can put on some weight before the season. I think we are building some characater guys and I like the fact he is being rewarded with his excellent play with a starting spot. I mean who WOULDN'T get motivated after something like that happening.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I like the idea of promoting from within, but that doesn't completely allay my fear that Marshall will have a difficult time switching to MLB and adequately replacing Pierce.