Adam Carriker accuses Redskins of trying to drive Alfred Morris FA price down

[MTK]

Morris is the one killing his value.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Skinsfanatic

You know what is going to be funny in a not funny way. When RG3 and Morris both end up on the same team and they play together like they did in 2012 (and they do it for the next 10 years).

Need a time machine to see that again. The RG3 of old is long gone.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I don't know if they are limiting Morris by design or not. It does seem like they are limiting his touches...Morris is in a contract year and he deserves to paid like an elite running back given what he's done overall since his rookie season.

You don't pay for past production, that's just bad business. He's not even close to deserving elite money.

[Schneed10]

Generally speaking, RB is the position most dependent upon the players around him in all of football. That's why they're not worth much on the market. You can find capable backs in the 6th round who, if blocked well for, can run for 1200 yards no problem.

There's only a few guys worthy of being high draft picks at RB, who clearly separate themselves and create extra yards on their own; Peterson, Gurley. There aren't many.

We need more depth along the line so that if we lose Steiger and Lauvao we don't seize up. Who cares who our RB is.

[NoCalHail]

Carriker is just coming off like a former play with a grudge to carry out.

The first thing he is ignoring is that the run blocking this season has been downright poor. No way around that one.

The second is the contrast in style. Morris has below average speed for the RB position. His strength has always been running sideways until a cut back lane opened up and then hit the cut back lane hard and go.

While Matt Jones hasn't exactly lit the world on fire either, you can tell the difference that speed makes in the way Callahan wants to using the running game. There have been a handful of rushes by Jones where the only reason he got good yardage was because of his ability to accelerate through the hole before defenders closed in.

What is happening to Morris happens to NFL players all the time, a team in transition, changing schemes, sometimes they favor different players on the roster. Add that to the fact that the run blocking in general has been awful.

Not to mention on multiple occasions Gruden has said that he will stick without whoever has the hot hand during stretches of the games.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by MTK

You don't pay for past production, that's just bad business. He's not even close to deserving elite money.

He may not be. But he's proven and has a future in the NFL. He could end up in Atlanta or Denver and receive a sweet contract regardless of his dramatically decreased work load in 2015.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Skinsfanatic

You know what is going to be funny in a not funny way. When RG3 and Morris both end up on the same team and they play together like they did in 2012 (and they do it for the next 10 years).

For Mike Shanahan! That would suck (for us).

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by MTK

You don't pay for past production, that's just bad business. He's not even close to deserving elite money.

Wait, when did you become MTK on here? Have I been living under a rock? First TK on ES and now MTK here!!

[skinsfan69]

I don't think the Redskins are the kind of organization to be shy about paying someone after a contract year. They paid Kerrigan. They paid Trent. It simply comes down to Gruden not liking Morris. He didn't draft him and has no loyalty to him. These things happen all the time when there are coaching changes.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't think the Redskins are the kind of organization to be shy about paying someone after a contract year. They paid Kerrigan. They paid Trent. It simply comes down to Gruden not liking Morris. He didn't draft him and has no loyalty to him. These things happen all the time when there are coaching changes.

I think that simplifies it too much. It's not that he just doesn't like Morris, it's that Morris can't excel with the line and TE executing the run blocking like it currently is. Morris gets 1 yard when they play like this, Jones gets 3.

If the line blocks well then anybody can get 5 yards per carry.

The fact of the matter is Morris is just OK. He's not great. Look at his career yards per carry when Griffin isn't playing (ie threat of the read option isn't there). He's at 4.0, maybe even lower than that now. That's completely average in this league.

We have an affinity for Morris because we all remember 2012 but circumstances change. I'm fine if they resign him but he's not worth more than a couple million per season. They could easily draft another to pair with Jones in the 3rd round this year and we'd be more than fine at RB.

If we want the run game to work we need better interior blocking and a TE that can actually block without holding. Morris is irrelevant.

[MTK]

I'd let AM walk, go with Jones and another draftee next year. With his age and mileage he's due to break down sooner rather than later anyway.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

I'd let AM walk, go with Jones and another draftee next year. With his age and mileage he's due to break down sooner rather than later anyway.

Agree. I'd rather use the cap space for MLB, safety, CB or just about any other position.

It's very easy to hit on a 3rd or 4th round RB. I'd rather use my money on another position.

[JoeRedskin]

Several years back, I was the guy who said it was okay to spend money on London Fletcher one last time b/c he was a leader, even if his play had deteriorated, his intangibles made up for it. I was wrong.

As much as I really, really like AM as a the person he appears to be off the field and the teammate he appears to be on it, his play simply does not justify anything special in terms of a contract. To a certain degree his like other backs (and is perhaps the last of them) who have done well in the Shanahan system only to be exposed as to pedestrian when they move on to a different system. Here, instead of him leaving the system, the system left him.

I have a real affinity for the guy but, regardless, this league is all about production on the field. While AM's character are terrific, production on the field has to be the bottom line and, generally, anything else good is gravy.

[Chico23231]

we all know that cousins and alfmo are besties on the team, do we really want to break up that union? Arent we afraid Cousins might sulk a little bit? Cousins' ball-washers might have a concern

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

we all know that cousins and alfmo are besties on the team, do we really want to break up that union? Arent we afraid Cousins might sulk a little bit? Cousins' ball-washers might have a concern

No. Just no.