Off season begins.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

If we're looking at defense in FA, I want Kawann Short. That's the one big splash I'd do.

I agree, what would the price be for him and Baker ? $15 million ?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

I agree, what would the price be for him and Baker ? $15 million ?

Estimated per year for short is 18 million alone.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Estimated per year for short is 18 million alone.

Scot isn't gonna break the bank. He's smart. We'll upgrade the D but not with a ton of big deals.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Scot isn't gonna break the bank. He's smart. We'll upgrade the D but not with a ton of big deals.

I agree, however there is no chance Short gets $18 million. He made $2.5 last year.

Campbell made $15 million last year. I am not paying $10+ million for a 30 year old D-lineman

Calais Campbell Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Bonus Money | Over The Cap

Here is a good list of 2017 free agents, it includes expiring contract and stats

NFL Free Agents and Free Agency

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Scot isn't gonna break the bank. He's smart. We'll upgrade the D but not with a ton of big deals.

It looked smart when the Giants did it.

[Alvin Walton]

Calais Campbell is a FA this year.
Hes 30 years old but I would plug him in over any of our current guys.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Calais Campbell is a FA this year.
Hes 30 years old but I would plug him in over any of our current guys.

For a 3 years deal I'd take him

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Calais Campbell is a FA this year.
Hes 30 years old but I would plug him in over any of our current guys.

Dude I'm with you. He can do a lot along the line...slide inside or stand him up.

[hutch17]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Dude I'm with you. He can do a lot along the line...slide inside or stand him up.

Eric Barry is a free agent too, we could have him at FS and Cravens at SS. I have also heard that they might mover Breeland to FS

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by hutch17

Eric Barry is a free agent too, we could have him at FS and Cravens at SS. I have also heard that they might mover Breeland to FS

Eric Barry is gonna be sky high...A couple guys who I believe should be our focus in Free Agency is DT Bennie Logan and Guard Ron Leary. Both make a ton of sense for us.

I would like to Breeland stay in the slot, he played well there.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by hutch17

Eric Barry is a free agent too, we could have him at FS and Cravens at SS. I have also heard that they might mover Breeland to FS

Everyone is assuming Cravens will make a smooth transition to strong safety. There is a big difference between covering TEs and RBs ..... WRs are much more challenging.Also, Cravens tested at 4.68 speed.... very average for a safety.

Berry is going to be to expensive. And he is a gamble health wise.

[HTTR]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Everyone is assuming Cravens will make a smooth transition to strong safety. There is a big difference between covering TEs and RBs ..... WRs are much more challenging.Also, Cravens tested at 4.68 speed.... very average for a safety.



Berry is going to be to expensive. And he is a gamble health wise.

Agree on Berry. Not too worried about Cravens playing safety. That's where he started at USC (as a freshman) before morphing into a hybrid SS/strongside backer role. The kid is only 21 and is being developed to play a key role in Skins D. Speed may be average, but he makes plays.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I'm not a good cap guy, but I would imagine he would be one of the top three defensive guys available.

[skinsfaninok]

Jay wants Kirk back next year

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[punch it in]

I lost so much faith in KC and Gruden today.
The int - all things considered- was just one of the worst decisions I have ever seen a qb make.
At the end of the first half (CT i think it was) there was a nice gainer of about 15-20 yards? Moved us up around our own 40-45 if I remember correctly. He lets 20 seconds run off the clock with three timeouts- than we have another nice gainer and have to settle for a 57 yarder? We could have moved atleast ten yards closer. Those three points matter ? A little bit.
It was truly amazing to me that he did not use a timeout.
There is alot wrong with this team but I thought the whole Gruden KC thing was our foundation for great things to come.
I am no longer 100% sold on either one. Sucks.