Better coach

sniks · 10-10-2005, 08:06 PM

wasn't he head coach at buffalo?

12thMan · 10-10-2005, 08:09 PM

Yes he was. He did a pretty good job there. He had a top five defense too.

That Guy · 10-11-2005, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Yes he was. He did a pretty good job there. He had a top five defense too.

14-18 and last or second to last in the division two years running isn't that great a job. He also told the media how stupid they were constantly which really didn't help him. JG is a much better HC right now.

SUNRA · 10-10-2005, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fan4Life

This may piss a lot of people off but after watching an interview on comcast with Greg Williams,I wish he was the head coach. He as an attitude that I just dont see in Gibbs. When the team screws up Gibbs says well,we played hard and we never quit,blah blah blah. Williams was pissed and it showed. He dont try to sugar coat what went wrong he points fingers. GOOD! tell it like it is for a change. Portis fumbled and cost us 7. Gibbs woulda said, well it was a wet ball. Maybe so but GW said it was in his stomach and he dropped it. I like Gibbs a lot but when he calls it quits I sure hope Danielmoneybags can keep GW . A coach needs to be feared and respected not just respected.

Joe Gibbs is the kind of old school Coach who is too proud to yell at his players in public. He's the kind of parent who wait until you get home and tear your ass up after disobeying him. Don't let his calm presence fool you. Joe Theismann has said on repeated occassions that Joe Gibbs will tell you off behind closed doors. He doesn' believe in airing out his grievances in public. I respect that in this day and time.

sniks · 10-10-2005, 08:18 PM

Head coach and defensive coordinater are 2 different animals.If he becomes head coach he will need to hire a Joe Gibbs like mind to run his offense.But thats getting ahead of ourselves.Joe Gibbs was, is,and will forever be the man in D.C.

12thMan · 10-10-2005, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sniks

Head coach and defensive coordinater are 2 different animals.If he becomes head coach he will need to hire a Joe Gibbs like mind to run his offense.But thats getting ahead of ourselves.Joe Gibbs was, is,and will forever be the man in D.C.

True....even as the head coach at Buffalo he didn't do a terrible job.

I for one think that GW is benefiting from working with an offensive genious like Gibbs.

sniks · 10-10-2005, 08:20 PM

How many posts before I'm not a scrub?

12thMan · 10-10-2005, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sniks

How many posts before I'm not a scrub?

Don't worry man, you sound pretty smart for a scrub

sniks · 10-10-2005, 08:29 PM

Don't worry man, you sound pretty smart for a scrub

Thanks!! Maybe someday I'll be HEAD COACH of the WARPATH!!!!!!!!!!

MTK · 10-10-2005, 08:45 PM

There's no comparison here.

GoSkins! · 10-10-2005, 08:51 PM

I remember a game in Gibbs first tenure when the skins were getting thier asses kicked in the first half. They said at halftime Gibbs was kicking chairs and screaming about heart and character. When he came back to the sidelines, he looked cool as a cucumber.

Don't be fooled.

P.S. The skins won that game.

Daseal · 10-10-2005, 08:53 PM

First of all, it's not like Gibbs went and convinced Portis to come play for us. We said here's a pro bowl cornerback and a 2nd round pick -- gimmie.

Also -- While Gibbs' offense looks great and completely revamped this year, I still think he has a little ways to go till he's an offensive genius. We're moving the ball just great, but as a genius he needs to find a way to put up points. We're just not coming away with quite enough, in my opinion.

Greg Williams is an amazing defensive mind, he mixes and matches and coaches his defense like I coach my madden team. Cornerbacks playing defensive end (my Madden team, not Williams!) and he really fires me up watching him on TV without a doubt. If Gibbs didn't have the history he has, I'd agree completely that GW was the better coach. However, thanks to his history Gibbs demands respect from the players, fans, and media. That respect has translated into a revitalized orginization.

The real question is how long will Gibbs stay here. He made no bones about the fact that the only reason he came back was for Coy, his son, to learn how to coach. Coy wanted to coach, he told him how awful it is and how much work and stress it puts on you, yet that's what Coy wanted to do. If Coy decides he doesn't want to be a coach and decides to leave, what happens to Joe? If Coy takes over a more important position than "quality control" and fails miserably -- what happens? I think as Coy goes as does Gibbs.

Now, don't get me wrong. I think he loves coaching and he loves the Washington Redskins, but I also think he's getting older and older and coaching is a lot of work and stress, especially if you aren't winning (which looks to be changing!). So Gibbs leaving early wouldn't suprise me at all.

Both coaches are great but in different ways. Leave it at that.

GoSkins! · 10-10-2005, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Both coaches are great but in different ways. Leave it at that.

Smartest thing I've read in this thread.

dblanch66 · 10-11-2005, 03:25 AM

"So Gibbs leaving early wouldn't suprise me at all"

No insult intended, Daseal but this just shows that you're not old enough to really remember Joe's first tenure and the kind of guy he is. It would surprise me GREATLY to see Gibbs leave before his contract expires. He has so much integrity, heart and fire that he won't go until he brings the trophy back to DC. PUT IT IN THE BANK!!!!

#56fanatic · 10-11-2005, 08:28 AM

off on so many points. Gibbs worked with Air Coreyal(sorry if spelled wrong) in san diego before making a jump to DC. He also was a offensive coordinator in college. His offenses is what drove the old san diego chargers, Kellon Winslow Sr, joyner, all those air it out offenses. when he came to DC, he tried that and realized he didn't have the personal and chose to get riggins and use the O-line given and pound the ball. Gibbs is very much a great coach when it comes to offense. He uses the players to their ability and strengths and builds an offense. No way is GW a better coach than Gibbs, give me a break, Williams hasn't won squat! Good, maybe great D-coach, but mediocore head coach.

10-10-2005, 08:06 PM	#1
sniks Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: CT. Age: 66 Posts: 97	Re: Better coach wasn't he head coach at buffalo?

10-10-2005, 08:09 PM	#2
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Better coach Yes he was. He did a pretty good job there. He had a top five defense too.

10-10-2005, 08:20 PM	#7
sniks Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: CT. Age: 66 Posts: 97	Re: Better coach How many posts before I'm not a scrub?

10-10-2005, 08:29 PM	#9
sniks Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: CT. Age: 66 Posts: 97	Re: Better coach Don't worry man, you sound pretty smart for a scrub Thanks!! Maybe someday I'll be HEAD COACH of the WARPATH!!!!!!!!!!

10-10-2005, 08:45 PM	#10
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,121	Re: Better coach There's no comparison here. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-10-2005, 08:18 PM	#5
sniks Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: CT. Age: 66 Posts: 97	Re: Better coach Head coach and defensive coordinater are 2 different animals.If he becomes head coach he will need to hire a Joe Gibbs like mind to run his offense.But thats getting ahead of ourselves.Joe Gibbs was, is,and will forever be the man in D.C.

10-10-2005, 08:51 PM	#11
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 57 Posts: 1,587	Re: Better coach I remember a game in Gibbs first tenure when the skins were getting thier asses kicked in the first half. They said at halftime Gibbs was kicking chairs and screaming about heart and character. When he came back to the sidelines, he looked cool as a cucumber. Don't be fooled. P.S. The skins won that game. __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

10-10-2005, 08:53 PM	#12
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 8,341	Re: Better coach First of all, it's not like Gibbs went and convinced Portis to come play for us. We said here's a pro bowl cornerback and a 2nd round pick -- gimmie. Also -- While Gibbs' offense looks great and completely revamped this year, I still think he has a little ways to go till he's an offensive genius. We're moving the ball just great, but as a genius he needs to find a way to put up points. We're just not coming away with quite enough, in my opinion. Greg Williams is an amazing defensive mind, he mixes and matches and coaches his defense like I coach my madden team. Cornerbacks playing defensive end (my Madden team, not Williams!) and he really fires me up watching him on TV without a doubt. If Gibbs didn't have the history he has, I'd agree completely that GW was the better coach. However, thanks to his history Gibbs demands respect from the players, fans, and media. That respect has translated into a revitalized orginization. The real question is how long will Gibbs stay here. He made no bones about the fact that the only reason he came back was for Coy, his son, to learn how to coach. Coy wanted to coach, he told him how awful it is and how much work and stress it puts on you, yet that's what Coy wanted to do. If Coy decides he doesn't want to be a coach and decides to leave, what happens to Joe? If Coy takes over a more important position than "quality control" and fails miserably -- what happens? I think as Coy goes as does Gibbs. Now, don't get me wrong. I think he loves coaching and he loves the Washington Redskins, but I also think he's getting older and older and coaching is a lot of work and stress, especially if you aren't winning (which looks to be changing!). So Gibbs leaving early wouldn't suprise me at all. Both coaches are great but in different ways. Leave it at that. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

10-11-2005, 03:25 AM	#14
dblanch66 The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 60 Posts: 1,176	Re: Better coach "So Gibbs leaving early wouldn't suprise me at all" No insult intended, Daseal but this just shows that you're not old enough to really remember Joe's first tenure and the kind of guy he is. It would surprise me GREATLY to see Gibbs leave before his contract expires. He has so much integrity, heart and fire that he won't go until he brings the trophy back to DC. PUT IT IN THE BANK!!!!

10-11-2005, 08:28 AM	#15
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 52 Posts: 1,801	Re: Better coach off on so many points. Gibbs worked with Air Coreyal(sorry if spelled wrong) in san diego before making a jump to DC. He also was a offensive coordinator in college. His offenses is what drove the old san diego chargers, Kellon Winslow Sr, joyner, all those air it out offenses. when he came to DC, he tried that and realized he didn't have the personal and chose to get riggins and use the O-line given and pound the ball. Gibbs is very much a great coach when it comes to offense. He uses the players to their ability and strengths and builds an offense. No way is GW a better coach than Gibbs, give me a break, Williams hasn't won squat! Good, maybe great D-coach, but mediocore head coach.

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