Arrington: 'I could have handled things a bit better'

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by FirstandTen

Lets change the subject a bit here.... How many sacks does Lavar get Sunday Night .... and will he be MIC'ed UP?

3 Sacks, 9 tackles (3 for loss), and one QB knocked out of the game.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by FirstandTen

Lets change the subject a bit here.... How many sacks does Lavar get Sunday Night .... and will he be MIC'ed UP?

hell yes!!!! worry about the eagles ...lavars playing ....all this is over

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Where are all the newbies with 56 in their username since he started playing a lot? Weren't they the ones leading the charge against the team and GW in favor of one guy? One guy who has admitted that he was mostly wrong at the time and that those of us who said maybe he just wasn't 100% ready to go seem to have been right. I don't see them around much. Weaklings they are.

I haven't been on the site in a week due to travel. But I saw your quote and you know I had to respond. I dont care what was said in the beginning, the fact is and always will be LaVar is better than Holdman and should have been playing. LaVar will say the "right" things right now since the staff HAS to put him in. We all saw how bad Holdman was, and GW couldn't go on any longer trying to fool himself as well as us. Now Holdman has stopped talking to the press. Man these guys get bitter after getting benched. Did he actually think he was going to continue playing ahead of LaVar?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I haven't been on the site in a week due to travel. But I saw your quote and you know I had to respond. I dont care what was said in the beginning, the fact is and always will be LaVar is better than Holdman and should have been playing. LaVar will say the "right" things right now since the staff HAS to put him in. We all saw how bad Holdman was, and GW couldn't go on any longer trying to fool himself as well as us. Now Holdman has stopped talking to the press. Man these guys get bitter after getting benched. Did he actually think he was going to continue playing ahead of LaVar?

in holdman's interviews in before the season even started he said he knew lavar was going to take his starting spot. GW said it had to do with him not having his confidence/speed and missing so much work in the offseason and last year that kept him out of the lineup. You're still implying that GW is purposely (and pointlessly) malicious for no reason (except some unfounded, unexplainable personal hatred for lavar).

[MTK]

Originally Posted by That Guy

in holdman's interviews in before the season even started he said he knew lavar was going to take his starting spot. GW said it had to do with him not having his confidence/speed and missing so much work in the offseason and last year that kept him out of the lineup. You're still implying that GW is purposely (and pointlessly) malicious for no reason (except some unfounded, unexplainable personal hatred for lavar).

So what we have is a conspiracy theory to explain a conspiracy theory... interesting.

[FirstandTen]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I haven't been on the site in a week due to travel. But I saw your quote and you know I had to respond. I dont care what was said in the beginning, the fact is and always will be LaVar is better than Holdman and should have been playing. LaVar will say the "right" things right now since the staff HAS to put him in. We all saw how bad Holdman was, and GW couldn't go on any longer trying to fool himself as well as us. Now Holdman has stopped talking to the press. Man these guys get bitter after getting benched. Did he actually think he was going to continue playing ahead of LaVar?

You really are a 56 Fanatic..... Stop with the theories this situation is settled just relax and root for the team.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by FirstandTen

You really are a 56 Fanatic..... Stop with the theories this situation is settled just relax and root for the team.

you people dont know me from me Joe, so to say I am not a true fan of the Redskins is totally wrong. I have been a die hard fan since I was born. Because I have a feeling that one player is better than the other and should be playing doesn't discount my loyalty as well as anyone elses. didn't everyone think benching Brunell was in the best interest of the team? That Ramsey was the better QB. Isn't that the same situation here. Just because I have 56 in logname doesn't make me a LaVar fan, and not a Redskins fan. I have been a fan before LaVar got here and will be a fan when he leaves. All this crap is getting old, you have one side saying I told you so and the other going off about the comments made by LaVar the last couple of days. I have no theories about this team or why he wasnt playing. I was only stating what I heard from programs on TV or columnists in the paper. I have no idea what goes on in the organization as much as you do. I dont know why you and the other people who continuously bash what I say. I thought this was an opinion site. So if Green Bay decided to sit Brett and play Aaron Rogers, you dont think some green bay fans would question the coaches decision. If you think they wouldn't you are crazy. Same thing w/ Vick and all the other superstar players. (and before you start bashing me with this one, In no way am I saying LaVar is a superstar) dont forget we are comparing a LB in his prime to a veteran(who is servicable) but not that good. I would be making the same comments if it were Marcus Washington getting benched infavor of Holdman. Regardless of the player, if anyone feels one player is better than the one in front of him, there are going to be questions, and opinions on why there aren't playing. Cant you just leave it alone.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

you people dont know me from me Joe,

I know Joe, and you my friend, are no Joe.

[onsidekick]

I'm new to this but I think what everyone's looking for is something along the lines of Lavar's 'I could have handled things a little bit better' comment

[FirstandTen]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

you people dont know me from me Joe, so to say I am not a true fan of the Redskins is totally wrong. I have been a die hard fan since I was born. Because I have a feeling that one player is better than the other and should be playing doesn't discount my loyalty as well as anyone elses. didn't everyone think benching Brunell was in the best interest of the team? That Ramsey was the better QB. Isn't that the same situation here. Just because I have 56 in logname doesn't make me a LaVar fan, and not a Redskins fan. I have been a fan before LaVar got here and will be a fan when he leaves. All this crap is getting old, you have one side saying I told you so and the other going off about the comments made by LaVar the last couple of days. I have no theories about this team or why he wasnt playing. I was only stating what I heard from programs on TV or columnists in the paper. I have no idea what goes on in the organization as much as you do. I dont know why you and the other people who continuously bash what I say. I thought this was an opinion site. So if Green Bay decided to sit Brett and play Aaron Rogers, you dont think some green bay fans would question the coaches decision. If you think they wouldn't you are crazy. Same thing w/ Vick and all the other superstar players. (and before you start bashing me with this one, In no way am I saying LaVar is a superstar) dont forget we are comparing a LB in his prime to a veteran(who is servicable) but not that good. I would be making the same comments if it were Marcus Washington getting benched infavor of Holdman. Regardless of the player, if anyone feels one player is better than the one in front of him, there are going to be questions, and opinions on why there aren't playing. Cant you just leave it alone.

The reason we "bash" what you say is b/c what you were saying about the lavar situation was bashing the team. Your way off base here and missing the point. Lavar was hurt, recovering... thats the main reason why he was not starting. The other reason is because he was hurt and recovering he miss a full season worth of running a new system so he had to catch up there too. Did u read the article. He said he had to learn to run again!! This is nothing like benching a superstar for no reason. There was a reason ... re-read that article if you have too...

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

you people dont know me from me Joe, so to say I am not a true fan of the Redskins is totally wrong. I have been a die hard fan since I was born. Because I have a feeling that one player is better than the other and should be playing doesn't discount my loyalty as well as anyone elses. didn't everyone think benching Brunell was in the best interest of the team? That Ramsey was the better QB. Isn't that the same situation here. Just because I have 56 in logname doesn't make me a LaVar fan, and not a Redskins fan. I have been a fan before LaVar got here and will be a fan when he leaves. All this crap is getting old, you have one side saying I told you so and the other going off about the comments made by LaVar the last couple of days. I have no theories about this team or why he wasnt playing. I was only stating what I heard from programs on TV or columnists in the paper. I have no idea what goes on in the organization as much as you do. I dont know why you and the other people who continuously bash what I say. I thought this was an opinion site. So if Green Bay decided to sit Brett and play Aaron Rogers, you dont think some green bay fans would question the coaches decision. If you think they wouldn't you are crazy. Same thing w/ Vick and all the other superstar players. (and before you start bashing me with this one, In no way am I saying LaVar is a superstar) dont forget we are comparing a LB in his prime to a veteran(who is servicable) but not that good. I would be making the same comments if it were Marcus Washington getting benched infavor of Holdman. Regardless of the player, if anyone feels one player is better than the one in front of him, there are going to be questions, and opinions on why there aren't playing. Cant you just leave it alone.

You are correct, I do not know you or is it germane.
I think the issue is not the logical, reasonable post you submit above, but rather the conspiratorial, moronic, lunacy posted by a few hysterical "fans" claiming GW and Joe had made it some kind of absurd personal vendetta eclipsing, and abandoning all team oriented goals for the personal revenge or some ridiculous sh...!
Rules are: Joe and GW and staff have one common goal-WIN
Future rules: WIN
Personal rules: WIN
They exist for the team-only as do the players. Joe says "right up front", if these are not your goals, you cannot be a Redskin. I personally would have it no other way. They DO NOT play people with better personal sitting on the bench without reason, and JUST CAUSE.
If that is not you #56, it does not apply. I too, am a Lavar fan and very happy he is back in the lineup. I look for great things out of him, but I COMPLETELY support GW and Joe in this matter

[funandgunner]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I haven't been on the site in a week due to travel. But I saw your quote and you know I had to respond. I dont care what was said in the beginning, the fact is and always will be LaVar is better than Holdman and should have been playing. LaVar will say the "right" things right now since the staff HAS to put him in. We all saw how bad Holdman was, and GW couldn't go on any longer trying to fool himself as well as us. Now Holdman has stopped talking to the press. Man these guys get bitter after getting benched. Did he actually think he was going to continue playing ahead of LaVar?

I don't understand : (1)Lavar will say the right things now because they have to play him ? .... or (2)he will say the right things now because or else - they will bench him ?

I added the rhetorical #2 question. I think we all need to get something straight - no player is above the team. If that player thinks he is above the team then it is time for that player to have an MRI on his ego or have it surgically removed, cause that sucker must be getting too big. One player doesn't make a team (ask Michael Jordan when he was playing for the Wizards) and this is a totally different issue then T.O. and whoever has a contract dispute. As fans, questioning the coaches for their personnel decisions is absurd - you don't even know what the hell is going on except what the media and the team leaks to you. Whether the reasons are an attitude adjustment, motivational issues, or player performance, you as a fan are getting a filtered and skewed image of these reasons. No one is above being benched - No One, if that is what is needed to improve them and the team.

Not saying this is the reason, but would you bench someone if you think that player is not playing to his full potential and benching him would allow him to reach it ?

And as for questioning the hall of fame, triple superbowl-winning coach - do you really think that your football and personal knowledge of the situation is greater than Gibbs ? And to me, gibbs is the team - I'd rather have it his team than having it Lavar's team. So to me personally, you either back up gibbs and the redskins or Lavar, the player - and not both. Pick one to keep or kick off: gibbs or lavar ?

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by funandgunner

I don't understand : (1)Lavar will say the right things now because they have to play him ? .... or (2)he will say the right things now because or else - they will bench him ?

I added the rhetorical #2 question. I think we all need to get something straight - no player is above the team. If that player thinks he is above the team then it is time for that player to have an MRI on his ego or have it surgically removed, cause that sucker must be getting too big. One player doesn't make a team (ask Michael Jordan when he was playing for the Wizards) and this is a totally different issue then T.O. and whoever has a contract dispute. As fans, questioning the coaches for their personnel decisions is absurd - you don't even know what the hell is going on except what the media and the team leaks to you. Whether the reasons are an attitude adjustment, motivational issues, or player performance, you as a fan are getting a filtered and skewed image of these reasons. No one is above being benched - No One, if that is what is needed to improve them and the team.

Not saying this is the reason, but would you bench someone if you think that player is not playing to his full potential and benching him would allow him to reach it ?

And as for questioning the hall of fame, triple superbowl-winning coach - do you really think that your football and personal knowledge of the situation is greater than Gibbs ? And to me, gibbs is the team - I'd rather have it his team than having it Lavar's team. So to me personally, you either back up gibbs and the redskins or Lavar, the player - and not both. Pick one to keep or kick off: gibbs or lavar ?

The reason I said he playing is because the side that Holdman was playing was getting gashed. the reason LaVar played the 2nd half. If LaVar was getting gashed, then fine replace him. I dont understand why I as well as anyother 56 fan have to defend ourselves when we think one player is better than the one playing. I was not the only one questioning it, The football people, who by the way know a hell of a lot more than you and I, questioned it also. Look we can agree to disagree. Never have I said LaVar is above the team. If for one second I thought he would hurt our chances from winning, I would say replace him. send him packing. Now if he doesn't make the impact we all think he can, then he will be playing else where next year. If he makes the impact then he may be back. who knows. No one was more excited to have Joe back than me. I grew up in the late 70's early 80's when Joe was a god in DC, and still is. I would choose gibbs over any player, that is a no brainer. But because I feel one player is better than the other I have to listen to you all bash what I say, so I say bring it on!! I am game.

[funandgunner]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

The reason I said he playing is because the side that Holdman was playing was getting gashed. the reason LaVar played the 2nd half. If LaVar was getting gashed, then fine replace him. I dont understand why I as well as anyother 56 fan have to defend ourselves when we think one player is better than the one playing. I was not the only one questioning it, The football people, who by the way know a hell of a lot more than you and I, questioned it also. Look we can agree to disagree. Never have I said LaVar is above the team. If for one second I thought he would hurt our chances from winning, I would say replace him. send him packing. Now if he doesn't make the impact we all think he can, then he will be playing else where next year. If he makes the impact then he may be back. who knows. No one was more excited to have Joe back than me. I grew up in the late 70's early 80's when Joe was a god in DC, and still is. I would choose gibbs over any player, that is a no brainer. But because I feel one player is better than the other I have to listen to you all bash what I say, so I say bring it on!! I am game.

For the record, I wanted Lavar playing as much as anyone and I think he is and will be the best weakside olb we have - but wanting him to play and questioning the coaches for not putting him in the game - are 2 different things.

You questioning knowledgable football coaches (to say the least) and that have first-hand knowledge that is very close to the situation versus your opinion that has been attained through the media. I say whatever is best for the team - and that is gibbs making the decisions for the team.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

The reason I said he playing is because the side that Holdman was playing was getting gashed. the reason LaVar played the 2nd half. If LaVar was getting gashed, then fine replace him. I dont understand why I as well as anyother 56 fan have to defend ourselves when we think one player is better than the one playing. I was not the only one questioning it, The football people, who by the way know a hell of a lot more than you and I, questioned it also. Look we can agree to disagree. Never have I said LaVar is above the team. If for one second I thought he would hurt our chances from winning, I would say replace him. send him packing. Now if he doesn't make the impact we all think he can, then he will be playing else where next year. If he makes the impact then he may be back. who knows. No one was more excited to have Joe back than me. I grew up in the late 70's early 80's when Joe was a god in DC, and still is. I would choose gibbs over any player, that is a no brainer. But because I feel one player is better than the other I have to listen to you all bash what I say, so I say bring it on!! I am game.

no one cares if you have an opinion about whether lavar should play or not. People DID care that people were calling for GW's head and kept repeating that he benched lavar cause he hated him (and that there couldn't possibly be any other reason at all for sitting him).