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Old 12-22-2005, 04:16 AM   #1
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Re: Pro Bowl Bound - Samuels, Moss

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yeah,that falcons helmet is throwing me off
Don't let it, I'm skin fan until I die, but this is my protest for M.Vick without, making anyone wet in there panties...
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Old 12-21-2005, 11:42 PM   #2
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Well put TAFKAS.
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Old 12-22-2005, 04:33 AM   #3
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Maybe the same people that vote for Yao Ming, is voting for M. Vick....I so glad for that brother, making the pro bowl, if Mc Nabb didn't get hurt.....him and Vick would have made the pro bowl and overrated Hassleback would have been out.... He's only in because he's riding the back of Shaun Alexander........Hassleback, pro bowl my ass
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Maybe the same people that vote for Yao Ming, is voting for M. Vick....I so glad for that brother, making the pro bowl, if Mc Nabb didn't get hurt.....him and Vick would have made the pro bowl and overrated Hassleback would have been out.... He's only in because he's riding the back of Shaun Alexander........Hassleback, pro bowl my ass

Why would have McNabb have made the pro-bowl, and what is your reasoning that Vick made it? Was it Vick's great touchdown to int ratio of 13td's to 12 int's? Or was it Vick's incrediable completion percentage of 54%?

Why would it be so hard, if you are a redskins fan, to be upset that our very own Mark Brunell did not make it? I mean he is having a way better season than Vick is, you do have to admit that.

I agree that Hasselbeck and Delhomme(SP) should not have made it, not over Brunell and Bledsoe(SP). Espically not Delhomme, not when Brunell has 2 td's for every 1 int.

And yes I will admit that last year I couldn't stand that Brunell was our QB, but you have to give credit where credit is due and Brunell got totally nubbed.
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Why would have McNabb have made the pro-bowl, and what is your reasoning that Vick made it? Was it Vick's great touchdown to int ratio of 13td's to 12 int's? Or was it Vick's incrediable completion percentage of 54%?

Why would it be so hard, if you are a redskins fan, to be upset that our very own Mark Brunell did not make it? I mean he is having a way better season than Vick is, you do have to admit that.

I agree that Hasselbeck and Delhomme(SP) should not have made it, not over Brunell and Bledsoe(SP). Espically not Delhomme, not when Brunell has 2 td's for every 1 int.

And yes I will admit that last year I couldn't stand that Brunell was our QB, but you have to give credit where credit is due and Brunell got totally nubbed.
Its wouldn't my brother....Brunell can have Haslebeck place.....I voted for Mark Brunell
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Old 12-22-2005, 03:42 PM   #6
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Re: Pro Bowl Bound - Samuels, Moss

Vick could be getting the love because all the wins he has produced this year and he helps the Falcons win. Oh that is right they are also 8-6 and not going to the playoffs, so the Vick wins arguement is out the door, and the stats don't support the nod for Hawaii either. If anything he should have been put in the same situation as Cooley, what category do you put him in QB or RB, he beats teams with his legs and athletic ability. Oh yeah he should get the nod because he is fun and exciting to watch kind of like Mack Strong is more exciting to watch than Cooley, not. Even if Cooley was listed as a FB and it was wrong that is what they had him at and he definitely was the best player listed in that category statistically, and exciting.
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Re: Pro Bowl Bound - Samuels, Moss

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Its wouldn't my brother....
Before you go pointing out grammar inaccuracies, just remember when you point you always have three fingers pointing back at you...

Its McNabb not Mc Nabb...
"What style is that, Vick, Culpepper, Mc Nabb.... you mean that style?"
http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread...6&page=5&pp=10

It is two not to...
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Re: Pro Bowl Bound - Samuels, Moss

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Before you go pointing out grammar inaccuracies, just remeber when you point you always have three fingers pointing back at you...

Its McNabb not Mc Nabb...
"What style is that, Vick, Culpepper, Mc Nabb.... you mean that style?"
http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread...6&page=5&pp=10

It is two not to...
"I have to black sons...."
http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread...6&page=6&pp=10
dont you mean "Remember"....check your grammar
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Re: Pro Bowl Bound - Samuels, Moss

hassleback is a way better nfl qback than vick.vick is just a superior athlete playing the qback position.there is no way he deserved to be in the pro bowl ahead of mark brunell,or even drew bledsoe.sundays game against the bears all vick wanted to do was get underneath his parka to stay warm.great players make great plays in big games.vicks living off a couple of great plays he made against the vikings a couple of seasons ago in a meaningless game
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Vick is nothing but a name. His stats are pathetic for a "Pro Bowl QB".
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Vick is nothing but a name. His stats are pathetic for a "Pro Bowl QB".
Dude, you'd better chill....wewhite is gonna getcha for talking about his main man, M. Vick!!
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Dude, you'd better chill....wewhite is gonna getcha for talking about his main man, M. Vick!!
The truth hurts.

Both Bledsoe and Brunell were much more deserving. It's not even close.
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Old 12-22-2005, 09:46 AM   #13
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Re: Pro Bowl Bound - Samuels, Moss

Check the stats, it's rediculous Brunell didn't get in. Look at his TD/INT ratio:
Drew Bledsoe, Cowboys (3,188 yards, 21 TDs, 14 INTs)
Mark Brunell, Redskins (2,797, 20 TDs, 8 INTs)
Jake Delhomme, Panthers (2,998, 20 TDs, 15 INTs)
Brett Favre, Packers (3,305 yards, 19 TDs, 24 INTs)
Matt Hasselbeck, Seahawks (3,215, 22 TDs, 9 INTs)
Eli Manning, Giants (3,314, 22 TDs, 16 INTs)
Michael Vick, Falcons (2,136 yards, 13 TDs, 12 INTs; 534 rushing yards, 6 TDs)



Also, Portis should definitely be in there instead of Dunn. 6 more TD's and only 30 less yards:
Shaun Alexander, Seahawks (1,668 rushing yards, 24 TDs)
Tiki Barber, Giants (1,577 rushing yards, 8 TDs; 421 receiving yards, 2 TDs)Warrick Dunn, Falcons (1,328 rushing yards, 2 TDs; 205 receiving yards, 1 TD)Steven Jackson, Rams (1,018 rushing yards, 7 TDs; 299 receiving yards, 2 TDs)
Thomas Jones, Bears (1,168 rushing yards, 8 TDs)
Clinton Portis, Redskins (1,296 rushing yards, 8 TDs)
Carnell ''Cadillac'' Williams, Buccaneers (947 yards, 5 TDs)
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Re: Pro Bowl Bound - Samuels, Moss

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Vick is nothing but a name. His stats are pathetic for a "Pro Bowl QB".
If the Pro Bowl is supposed to be based purely on statistics, then you can make an argument that he is not as good as some of the other quarterbacks in the NFC. But I thought the only stat that matters in football is wins, which is what Vick does, win games. He is one of the few players in the league that can change a game, almost completely by himself.

Vick's record as a starter is 33-21-1 since 2001. Atlanta's record without him is 9-18. So it would seem he's not quite as overrated as some people think.
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If the Pro Bowl is supposed to be based purely on statistics, then you can make an argument that he is not as good as some of the other quarterbacks in the NFC. But I thought the only stat that matters in football is wins, which is what Vick does, win games. He is one of the few players in the league that can change a game, almost completely by himself.

Vick's record as a starter is 33-21-1 since 2001. Atlanta's record without him is 9-18. So it would seem he's not quite as overrated as some people think.
Bledsoe and Brunell both have 8 wins this year just like Vick.

Vick = overrated name.
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