NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?

[SmootSmack]

Or is this a move geared toward 2008? Will they not keep Marcus (that would suck), will they Fletch go (why sign him in the first place)?

On the one hand you say, heck if we can get Briggs you get him and then you worry about playing time for everyone. On the other hand, you say this could do more damage than good

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Or is this a move geared toward 2008? Will they not keep Marcus (that would suck), will they Fletch go (why sign him in the first place)?

On the one hand you say, heck if we can get Briggs you get him and then you worry about playing time for everyone. On the other hand, you say this could do more damage than good

With the "win now" philosophy firmly in place, I doubt they're thinking that far ahead.

Wasn't Rocky drafted more or less as the replacement for Lavar Arrington?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

With the "win now" philosophy firmly in place, I doubt they're thinking that far ahead.

Wasn't Rocky drafted more or less as the replacement for Lavar Arrington?

Well they did it with Jason Campbell so you never know

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Why did the Wizards announcer just say they would talk about the Briggs trade (I think he actually said "he's coming to Washington") after the game?
Anyone else hear this?

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Why did the Wizards announcer just say they would talk about the Briggs trade (I think he said "he's coming to Washington") after the game?
Anyone else hear this?

yeah I just heard that and I logged on to thewarpath...I guess its happening

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by hooskins

yeah I just heard that and I logged on to thewarpath...I guess its happening

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought he said that.
But did you hear the Sportsnite commercial after the game? They didn't mention it again.
I'm hoping Buckhantz just misspoke.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought he said that.
But did you hear the Sportsnite commercial after the game? They didn't mention it again.
I'm hoping Buckhantz just misspoke.

I dont know about all that, it had a bullet point that said

-Briggs Deal or Briggs Situation


Perhaps its some kind of insider information that wasnt suppose to come out yet?

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I dont know about all that, it had a bullet point that said

-Briggs Deal or Briggs Situation


Perhaps its some kind of insider information that wasnt suppose to come out yet?

Could be, but I know that most of the local sportscasters have been treating this rumor like it's a fact lately, on all of the channels.

Ok, how about that Caron Butler shot to end the 3rd?!?!?! I actually only watched the last few minutes of the game but thank God I saw a replay of that thing. It wasn't quite as sick as Rasheed's from the other day, but it was nice nonetheless.

[Pocket$ $traight]

It looks like this thing is going down.

I am on the fence on this. I don't think we need him but on the other hand our linebacker play was atrocious last year and the unit's health was poor overall. I hope they run some 3-4 if they make this move.

I can't argue with the talent of the player (I don't think anyone can). Briggs is a stud. My main problem was that I was happy with the offseason approach this year as they stayed away from the "splash". This move has Snyder's fingerprints all over it. It was almost like he woke up and said, "What the hell am I doing? It is almost April and the league isn't talking about us!"

Also, I think the writing may be on the wall for Washington after this season. How can they keep three very high paid LB's? I love Washington and he is one of the last guys that I would want to see gone.

Well, the last piece is the D-line. The LB's are stacked and the secondary (before any injuries) looks pretty good. If they do not find a difference maker on the D-line with the 31st pick, they are just pissing in the wind once again. Carter needs to have a huge year next year, too.

They never leave themselves any margin for error.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

It looks like this thing is going down.

I am on the fence on this. I don't think we need him but on the other hand our linebacker play was atrocious last year and the unit's health was poor overall. I hope they run some 3-4 if they make this move.

I can't argue with the talent of the player (I don't think anyone can). Briggs is a stud. My main problem was that I was happy with the offseason approach this year as they stayed away from the "splash". This move has Snyder's fingerprints all over it. It was almost like he woke up and said, "What the hell am I doing? It is almost April and the league isn't talking about us!"

Also, I think the writing may be on the wall for Washington after this season. How can they keep three very high paid LB's? I love Washington and he is one of the last guys that I would want to see gone.

Well, the last piece is the D-line. The LB's are stacked and the secondary (before any injuries) looks pretty good. If they do not find a difference maker on the D-line with the 31st pick, they are just pissing in the wind once again. Carter needs to have a huge year next year, too.

They never leave themselves any margin for error.

I mean in the LR this might make some sense because we are gonna have to can Marcus Washington in the future because of contractual issues. Hopefully Briggs will fill that spot, but again this shows that the Skins are still not willing to work through the draft.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I mean in the LR this might make some sense because we are gonna have to can Marcus Washington in the future because of contractual issues. Hopefully Briggs will fill that spot, but again this shows that the Skins are still not willing to work through the draft.

Losing Washington is what really bothers me. Springs and Washington agree to restructure when we really need it. Then, they get banged up and all of a sudden they are not "team" players because their number is too large and they won't forfeit money. So they are replaced with the next big name. That is B.S.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Losing Washington is what really bothers me. Springs and Washington agree to restructure when we really need it. Then, they get banged up and all of a sudden they are not "team" players because their number is too large and they won't forfeit money. So they are replaced with the next big name. That is B.S.

Well I agree with you too. I dont think there a better Redskin than Marcus Washington. I have met the guy and he spent over 20 minutes talking to me and little brother. I have the utmost respect for him and I hope he can stay but his number skyrocket in couple years. I don't know what we can do, I mean we have to cut somewhere.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

It looks like this thing is going down.

I am on the fence on this. I don't think we need him but on the other hand our linebacker play was atrocious last year and the unit's health was poor overall. I hope they run some 3-4 if they make this move.

I can't argue with the talent of the player (I don't think anyone can). Briggs is a stud. My main problem was that I was happy with the offseason approach this year as they stayed away from the "splash". This move has Snyder's fingerprints all over it. It was almost like he woke up and said, "What the hell am I doing? It is almost April and the league isn't talking about us!"

Also, I think the writing may be on the wall for Washington after this season. How can they keep three very high paid LB's? I love Washington and he is one of the last guys that I would want to see gone.

Well, the last piece is the D-line. The LB's are stacked and the secondary (before any injuries) looks pretty good. If they do not find a difference maker on the D-line with the 31st pick, they are just pissing in the wind once again. Carter needs to have a huge year next year, too.

They never leave themselves any margin for error.

Damn you Grim! Here we are essentially agreeing again. Although I don't think it was a case of Snyder saying "I need to be in the news"

As I mentioned in another post the two main concerns I'd have are a.) what about other linebackers and b.) who will we take at #31, there are a lot of d-lineman available though

But considering the talent of Briggs and the precedent set by other trades for frnachise players it's really not a horrible deal for us. Fact is, it's getting a lot of pushback because it's the Redskins. If it was the Pats making this same exact trade it would be hailed as genius.

[MTK]

Don Banks:

Though the Redskins are more than willing to do the dance, any potential trade for disgruntled Bears linebacker Lance Briggs is going to require clearing significant hurdles on Chicago's end. At the NFC head coaches media breakfast Wednesday at the Arizona Biltmore, Washington's Joe Gibbs said nothing is "imminent'' in terms of swinging a deal for Briggs, because "everybody's got to keep talking about it and saying does it work?''

Gibbs said Washington, which holds the No. 6 pick in next month's draft, has had serious trade conversations with three teams in addition to Chicago: Two of those scenarios involve the Redskins moving up in the draft, and the other moving down, in addition to the Briggs talks. Washington is willing to flop first-round draft slots with Chicago (No. 31) in exchange for Briggs, who requested to be traded or released after the Bears applied their franchise tag to him this offseason, effectively keeping him off the free-agent market.

A league source I talked to said the Bears "have things to overcome'' before consummating a deal with Washington, and that the likelihood of Briggs eventually joining the Redskins isn't high. The following issues concern Chicago:

The Bears aren't sure they want to move up to the No. 6 slot in the draft, which entails a much bigger financial commitment than staying at No. 31. Chicago also wants time to study the potential prospects available in the top 10, to ensure that there's a player special enough to justify the move. And lastly, the Bears aren't happy that Briggs' agent, Drew Rosenhaus, came to Phoenix to instigate the trade talks with Washington, believing it casts them in the role of being dictated to by a player and his agent.

"If there is a trade, that would just give any other Bears player who was unhappy a blueprint of what to do in order to get the outcome they wanted,'' the source said. "That's good for the player and the agent, but not for the Bears. So even if Washington's offer was attractive, that may end up nixing any chance of a trade.''

The Redskins' preference is to move back in the first round, but Gibbs conceded that with so many teams wanting to move down in the draft, it would likely be easier for Washington to move up. How the Redskins would manage that isn't clear. Washington has no second-, third- or fourth-round picks this year, and Gibbs said the Redskins are committed to keeping their 2008 draft choices intact.

"From what you hear, your best bargains this year will be in the second round,'' Gibbs said. "That's where a lot of the players are. It's almost as if once you get past all the hype of the first round, that's where all the guys that you want will be.''

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Don Banks:

Though the Redskins are more than willing to do the dance, any potential trade for disgruntled Bears linebacker Lance Briggs is going to require clearing significant hurdles on Chicago's end. At the NFC head coaches media breakfast Wednesday at the Arizona Biltmore, Washington's Joe Gibbs said nothing is "imminent'' in terms of swinging a deal for Briggs, because "everybody's got to keep talking about it and saying does it work?''

Gibbs said Washington, which holds the No. 6 pick in next month's draft, has had serious trade conversations with three teams in addition to Chicago: Two of those scenarios involve the Redskins moving up in the draft, and the other moving down, in addition to the Briggs talks. Washington is willing to flop first-round draft slots with Chicago (No. 31) in exchange for Briggs, who requested to be traded or released after the Bears applied their franchise tag to him this offseason, effectively keeping him off the free-agent market.

A league source I talked to said the Bears "have things to overcome'' before consummating a deal with Washington, and that the likelihood of Briggs eventually joining the Redskins isn't high. The following issues concern Chicago:

The Bears aren't sure they want to move up to the No. 6 slot in the draft, which entails a much bigger financial commitment than staying at No. 31. Chicago also wants time to study the potential prospects available in the top 10, to ensure that there's a player special enough to justify the move. And lastly, the Bears aren't happy that Briggs' agent, Drew Rosenhaus, came to Phoenix to instigate the trade talks with Washington, believing it casts them in the role of being dictated to by a player and his agent.

"If there is a trade, that would just give any other Bears player who was unhappy a blueprint of what to do in order to get the outcome they wanted,'' the source said. "That's good for the player and the agent, but not for the Bears. So even if Washington's offer was attractive, that may end up nixing any chance of a trade.''

The Redskins' preference is to move back in the first round, but Gibbs conceded that with so many teams wanting to move down in the draft, it would likely be easier for Washington to move up. How the Redskins would manage that isn't clear. Washington has no second-, third- or fourth-round picks this year, and Gibbs said the Redskins are committed to keeping their 2008 draft choices intact.

"From what you hear, your best bargains this year will be in the second round,'' Gibbs said. "That's where a lot of the players are. It's almost as if once you get past all the hype of the first round, that's where all the guys that you want will be.''

that is a bit more more reassuring, so I hope it doesnt happen.


Funny thing is this report directly conflicts with other ones. One thing we do learn is the deal was started by us, so Gibbs is onboard for this stupid trade.