Update: McCain Selects Gov. Sarah Palin as Running Mate

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

In a typical Rouge Cou fashion she said "Obama...terrorist threats...evil...defeat...McCain...POW...country first...freedom..good ol' boys network bad...experience...Thank You and God Bless America."

Funny, me as a Republican can start a thread about Obama's speach and how he did a great job but you cannot even admit that Sarah had a great speech. I guess its the hate that the Dems show.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Funny, me as a Republican can start a thread about Obama's speach and how he did a great job but you cannot even admit that Sarah had a great speech. I guess its the hate that the Dems show.

Yeah she made a great speech. Too bad the Republican party just gave us eight years of the worst President in our great history and the party line at the GOP convention is all about how the Republicans are going to bring change to Washington. What an absolute joke. Good luck with that. How stupid is America right now is the only question in this election?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Yeah she made a great speech. Too bad the Republican party just gave us eight years of the worst President in our great history and the party line at the GOP convention is all about how the Republicans are going to bring change to Washington. What an absolute joke. Good luck with that. How stupid is America right now is the only question in this election?

Well thats your opinion!

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Funny, me as a Republican can start a thread about Obama's speach and how he did a great job but you cannot even admit that Sarah had a great speech. I guess its the hate that the Dems show.

I watched her entire speech, best line was I sold the state owned plane on e-bay. I have heard everything else she said before. It simple wasn't new to me and it certainly didn't excite me. Simply saying she's a good speaker and didn't fuck up the speech isn't a compliment. It's expected, unfortunately we have Bush and McCain to thank for the low expectation in that department.


What did she say in her speech that got you excited? Hopeful things will get steered in the right direction? That she will be a capable VP?

[jsarno]

Two things,
1- Schneed, I have really been enjoying your posts. I am very thankful we worked things out and I took you off my ignore list. Kudos.
2- I need to apologize...the "attack" I was speaking of on palin's daughter was not from the Obama or Obama's party, it was from NBC. I mispoke and I apologize.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Two things,
1- Schneed, I have really been enjoying your posts. I am very thankful we worked things out and I took you off my ignore list. Kudos.
2- I need to apologize...the "attack" I was speaking of on palin's daughter was not from the Obama or Obama's party, it was from NBC. I mispoke and I apologize.

Thanks.

And certainly no need to apologize, I've been corrected when I've said wrong stuff before. Nobody's right all the time.

[budw38]

Nice speech , not the usual BS " Im going to fix everything and I can create jobs" ,,, blah blah blah . Just in ,,, Obama was asked to give an opinion on the speech ,,, his response was Palin should have said " god damn America " , not god bless America .

[The Goat]

Just thought I'd share an interesting personal story about Palin. My cousin lives in Wassila and up until a year ago was the athletic director and football coach. The governor's son was trying for the football team but was constantly ineligible due to academic performance (evidently brains don't run in the family). Palin demanded Joey make the exception for her dunce son but my cous stood his ground and stuck w/ the athletic policy. The next week she intervened and had the board fire him.

Now the funny part is that he's a devoted Publican who planned to vote for old Johny. When he heard Palin was the veep he decided he just couldn't vote.

Funnier still how she's already under investigation for corruption based on a similar scenario.

Even funnier still how the conservative media can fall in love so easily w/ someone who's evidently known as a vindictive bitch up there in corruption central

...you gotta love American politics.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Just thought I'd share an interesting personal story about Palin. My cousin lives in Wassila and up until a year ago was the athletic director and football coach. The governor's son was trying for the football team but was constantly ineligible due to academic performance (evidently brains don't run in the family). Palin demanded Joey make the exception for her dunce son but my cous stood his ground and stuck w/ the athletic policy. The next week she intervened and had the board fire him.

Now the funny part is that he's a devoted Publican who planned to vote for old Johny. When he heard Palin was the veep he decided he just couldn't vote.

Funnier still how she's already under investigation for corruption based on a similar scenario.

Even funnier still how the conservative media can fall in love so easily w/ someone who's evidently known as a vindictive bitch up there in corruption central

...you gotta love American politics.

So if your going to make this post I guess its public and you will give the full name of the cousin fired?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by firstdown

So if your going to make this post I guess its public and you will give the full name of the cousin fired?

Sure, let me get his home address, phone #, SSN, and a recent photo cause God knows if I didn't provide it then everyone would know it didn't happen.

Never ceases to amaze me how the bullshit we hear all election season starts to rub off on us. (I'd sleep through November if it weren't for football)

[saden1]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Sure, let me get his home address, phone #, SSN, and a recent photo cause God knows if I didn't provide it then everyone would know it didn't happen.

Never ceases to amaze me how the bullshit we hear all election season starts to rub off on us. (I'd sleep through November if it weren't for football)

If your story can't be substantiated it makes it harder to authenticate it's truthiness.

[Schneed10]

Palin was stellar tonight. Whatever your beliefs on the content of her message, there's no denying that as a speaker she couldn't have been better. She made emotional appeals, logical appeals, and she played one of the strongest attack dog roles I've ever seen.

On top of all that, I really don't see how you can't like her as a person unless you're vehemently opposed to her stance on everything. Everyone can now see exactly why she has that 80% approval rating in Alaska, and exactly why McCain picked her.

As a speaker she was much stronger than Biden was, by a mile. McCain will have to knock one out of the park, just like she did, to attempt to match Obama.

[Dirtbag59]

I have never been so captivated by a speach since Al Pacino's inches speech in Any Given Sunday. It really was well done. Also does anyone know the chances of implementing National Health Care if Obama gets elected. I know that politicians promise a lot of things that go untouched when they get in office but this one scares the shit out of me.

In my personal experience I had a condition two years ago called Alergic Fungal Sinusitis. Its a condition where the body overreacts to fungus within the naval cavity and causes the nose to swell. My condition had gotten so bad that the fungal debris stuck in my nose was eroding my skull. Today theres a small hole in my head.

Thanks to the current health care system I was able to get surgery from the top doctor for AFS in the country within a month. In fact the actual surgery was booked a week in advance on a whim. Of course there was a lot of crap in my nose and 6 hours on the operating table was only enough to clear out one side, so they had to wait five weeks for my blood count to go back up so I could have another operation. The second operation took 5 hours.

Even though the worse was over my body still continued to have flare ups, though the danger to my eroding skull had been taken care of. For the next year and a half I worked with my doctors and had it not been for the frequent access I had to these physicians I would not have been able to get 100% cured from AFS (which in some cases is a lifelong condition and I had the most violent case among all my doctors patients save a close tie with a 14 year old girl).

If national health care was implemented then in theory it woruld have taken approximately 19.5 weeks to get an appointment with any specialist not to mention the top doctor in his field (who worked with my insurance to get covered by the way). I'll admit there seems to be a need for change so more people can get covered but to put the same orginazation that runs the DMV with something as complex as medical care is simply unexceptible. Especially with the problems for quality of treatment, research, effectiveness, and incentives to become doctors that are lacking in nationalized health care systems like the UK and Canada.

Anyway thats my rant for today

*Steps down from soapbox

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Thanks to the current health care system I was able to get surgery from the top doctor for AFS in the country within a month. In fact the actual surgery was booked a week in advance on a whim.

Let me ask you a simple question. Do you have health insurance? Oh wait. I'll answer for you. Of course you do. That's the problem. Obviously not a problem when you have access to the health care system. It's a great system with lots of great doctors. This country needs to protect absolutely everyone with regards to something as basic as healthcare IMO.

Ask yourself. What if you weren't covered? What kind of country would do that to someone?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Let me ask you a simple question. Do you have health insurance? Oh wait. I'll answer for you. Of course you do. That's the problem. Obviously not a problem when you have access to the health care system. It's a great system with lots of great doctors. This country needs to protect absolutely everyone with regards to something as basic as healthcare IMO.

Ask yourself. What if you weren't covered? What kind of country would do that to someone?

Well at what point does the goverment provide their coverage for Americans. When they have two new cars and no health coverage? When 19 years old and decide its not important? When? When do we screw up our current system to fix a small % who do not have coverage. Remember those two questions are people in % of the uninsured.