Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by gafinfan

NFL Game Center: Baltimore Ravens at Atlanta Falcons - 2009 Preseason Week 4

Good get.
Thank you

[SmootSmack]

Don't forget Steve Young. He credits Shanahan with really pushing him and turning his career around when he was the OC in San Fran

[skinsfaninok]

same here BUCKET. My bad on Beck looks like he's pretty good

[SmootSmack]

I hope I'm wrong on Beck, but I'm not sure I want to cash all our chips on a 30 year old who's barely played. I can't imagine we're putting this much faith in him. By we, I mean Kyle and Mike. But if that's the case, I hope he's Trent Green, not John Friesz.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I hope I'm wrong on Beck, but I'm not sure I want to cash all our chips on a 30 year old who's barely played. I can't imagine we're putting this much faith in him. By we, I mean Kyle and Mike. But if that's the case, I hope he's Trent Green, not John Friesz.

Oh come on, it'll be fun. And I'm actually kind of serious. I love the idea of going in with a talented underdog that is completely under the radar. He can move, put touch on his throws, anticipate routes, throw deep when he needs to, and he studies like a madman.

I'm picturing Marty Ball with a more creative passing attack. If we can go 8-8 with Tony Banks as our QB then we can certainly go 8-8 with John Beck running the Shanahan offense. Besides it's not like McNabb set the bar real high.

Of course I would prefer a rookie QB with tons of upside learning on the sidelines but you can't have everything. Though I still fear a repeat of the Wurrfel, Matthews, Ramsey carousel. Okay so my faith is a wee bit shakey sue me.

Originally Posted by elindsay

I don't really care for Beck,hes not the answer for our team.We really havn't had a good QB since J.T

How can you overlook Mark Rypien, Doug Williams, and Brad Johnson?

[elindsay]

I don't really care for Beck,hes not the answer for our team.We really havn't had a good QB since J.T

[skinsfaninok]

^ and even M Brunell

[Son Of Man]

I'm all in with the MS plan. Going to run with Beck in my Madden Franchise...on ALL MADDEN level!!! Take that!

[Kope]

[quoteHow can you overlook Mark Rypien, Doug Williams, and Brad Johnson?][/quote]

Actually......we havent kept a good QB since I have been watching the team. In fact by stats ....JC was the closest thing to a long term QB we have had. That is just a cursory look at TD/ Int, Yards and Comp%

Rypien inconsistant at best - he only really had two good seasons out of six (not consecutive)

Williams, as much as I liked him, he was at the end of his career here.

Johnson was good his first year and average (to bad) his second.


Joey T was the last guy who put together 3 good seasons - but that was it...just three.

This is the site I usedMark Rypien NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

I think what I am saying is we are due!

[Dirtbag59]

At this rate McNabb is going to end up as a backup QB in Philly.

- For starters Arizona has virtually zero interest in McNabb, as we've been saying for months. Arizona is currently linked to Kolb and Bulger.

- Minnesota is interested but doesn't want to spend big money on a veteran QB after drafting Chris Ponder.

- Oakland is committed to Jason Campbell.

- Titans could be interested in bringing in a vet but like Minnesota they don't want to give McNabb a multi-year deal.

- Cincinnati. Seriously doubt it.

- 49ers claim they're serious about keeping Alex Smith and having Kaepernick develop behind him.

- Seattle wants Hasselbeck back and if they can't get him they're rumored to be targeting Kolb.

- Miami..........apparently they would rather have Palmer but this seems like it could be a match. Also hearing that they might like Young.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

At this rate McNabb is going to end up as a backup QB in Philly.

- For starters Arizona has virtually zero interest in McNabb, as we've been saying for months. Arizona is currently linked to Kolb and Bulger.

- Minnesota is interested but doesn't want to spend big money on a veteran QB after drafting Chris Ponder.

- Oakland is committed to Jason Campbell.

- Titans could be interested in bringing in a vet but like Minnesota they don't want to give McNabb a multi-year deal.

- Cincinnati. Seriously doubt it.

- 49ers claim they're serious about keeping Alex Smith and having Kaepernick develop behind him.

- Seattle wants Hasselbeck back and if they can't get him they're rumored to be targeting Kolb.

- Miami..........apparently they would rather have Palmer but this seems like it could be a match. Also hearing that they might like Young.

As you indicate, those teams won't offer huge expensive multiyear deals. But I think both of those teams would not mind paying $$$ for a vet QB as a tutor for a year or two. So it depends on how deals were structured. A deal which they can get out of after a year or two (like the way we signed DMac last year) may be tolerable to both the team and to DMac.

[skinsfaninok]

I honestly could see 5 returning next year

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

At this rate McNabb is going to end up as a backup QB in Philly.

- For starters Arizona has virtually zero interest in McNabb, as we've been saying for months. Arizona is currently linked to Kolb and Bulger.

- Minnesota is interested but doesn't want to spend big money on a veteran QB after drafting Chris Ponder.

- Oakland is committed to Jason Campbell.

- Titans could be interested in bringing in a vet but like Minnesota they don't want to give McNabb a multi-year deal.

- Cincinnati. Seriously doubt it.

- 49ers claim they're serious about keeping Alex Smith and having Kaepernick develop behind him.

- Seattle wants Hasselbeck back and if they can't get him they're rumored to be targeting Kolb.

- Miami..........apparently they would rather have Palmer but this seems like it could be a match. Also hearing that they might like Young.

The Titans are in a terrible QB situation and could prob use McNabb...other than that ur pretty much correct. Honestly the Redskins and McNabb could really help each other by staying put for one more year. Bu egos will get in the way.

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[skinsfaninok]

So let's say JBeck is our QB next season, what's the over/under on wins? In your own opinions .

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

So let's say JBeck is our QB next season, what's the over/under on wins? In your own opinions .

If Beck becomes a surprise success you're looking at 10-11 wins. If Beck is who we thought he was you're looking at 7-8 wins. Either way I expect this team to improve over the 6 wins of a year ago with a better running game and a much improved defense.

And put it this way they were able to get 5 wins with McNabb playing like Chad Henne.

Originally Posted by Lotus

As you indicate, those teams won't offer huge expensive multiyear deals. But I think both of those teams would not mind paying $$$ for a vet QB as a tutor for a year or two. So it depends on how deals were structured. A deal which they can get out of after a year or two (like the way we signed DMac last year) may be tolerable to both the team and to DMac.

After playing us last year I can't understand why either would want McNabb. Especially the Titans. McNabb had all day to throw that game yet still came close to throwing the game with his usual 3rd down ground balls, a forced Int after 7 seconds untouched, and an errant throw in OT that easily could have been an Interception.