Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

^ Yes, seriously...he said a bad word, while drunk.

Where is the public outcry for the real criminals? This offseason:

Andre Smith and Da-Quan Bowers both took a gun into an airport.

Jay Ratliff put everyone in danger by driving drunk. His temmate killed someone that way.

Michael Boley was arrested for child abuse.

Amari Spivey beat up his girlfriend over child support, with the kid there.

Dez Bryant was arrested for beating his own mother.

monkey i am not picking on you per se but i always kinda roll my eyes when ppl try to defend or justify 1 person's specific negative act by pointing out all the other evil deeds that others might have done.

it has no relevance to the specific bad act being discussed and in no way excuses or absolves anyone from anything.

when ppl do that, i interpret it as them saying "whats the big deal, did you her what johnny said .... "


and im glad that no one here has raised the "white cracker" argument bc the term white cracker doesnt have 100s of years of oppression, hate and slavery behind it.

with all that strongly said, i dont think the NFL would have any justification for fining or suspending him. if football teams are like a family, id let the eagles family handle it internally. if he is too divisive of a presence, then the eagles should do what they have to do.

my 2 cents - no one should get a pass for using the word the way in which he said it but what he said should have no bearing on his football eligibility through the league office. i apologize for perhaps extending this convo.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

monkey i am not picking on you per se but i always kinda roll my eyes when ppl try to defend or justify 1 person's specific negative act by pointing out all the other evil deeds that others might have done.

it has no relevance to the specific bad act being discussed and in no way excuses or absolves anyone from anything.

when ppl do that, i interpret it as them saying "whats the big deal, did you her what johnny said .... "


and im glad that no one here has raised the "white cracker" argument bc the term white cracker doesnt have 100s of years of oppression, hate and slavery behind it.

with all that strongly said, i dont think the NFL would have any justification for fining or suspending him. if football teams are like a family, id let the eagles family handle it internally. if he is too divisive of a presence, then the eagles should do what they have to do.

my 2 cents - no one should get a pass for using the word the way in which he said it but what he said should have no bearing on his football eligibility through the league office. i apologize for perhaps extending this convo.

Well said.

Just to add because he was drunk shouldn't excuse anything either.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

monkey i am not picking on you per se but i always kinda roll my eyes when ppl try to defend or justify 1 person's specific negative act by pointing out all the other evil deeds that others might have done.

it has no relevance to the specific bad act being discussed and in no way excuses or absolves anyone from anything.

when ppl do that, i interpret it as them saying "whats the big deal, did you her what johnny said .... "


and im glad that no one here has raised the "white cracker" argument bc the term white cracker doesnt have 100s of years of oppression, hate and slavery behind it.

with all that strongly said, i dont think the NFL would have any justification for fining or suspending him. if football teams are like a family, id let the eagles family handle it internally. if he is too divisive of a presence, then the eagles should do what they have to do.

my 2 cents - no one should get a pass for using the word the way in which he said it but what he said should have no bearing on his football eligibility through the league office. i apologize for perhaps extending this convo.

The only thing you are saying with that comment is that its acceptable for black people to be racist but wrong when a white person is. Its not even the words used, its the intent behind the words. Thats why I disagree with people saying its wrong for a black person to use the word nigger/nigga. Their intent is completely different than Riley Coopers intent.

I really dont care if anyone calls me a cracker. I have been called that as well as honkey or any other number of racist words, but its the intent behind the words that matter. Im not going to cry over being called a name, but I do recognize the intent behind it and will judge that person accordingly. Intent is the main reason I have absolutely no problem defending the team having the name Redskins, because the intent to be racist is not there.

Saying you were going to feed fried chicken to a black person would never be considered racist without intent. And we both know that the intent behind that statement is racist. I have been sitting next to black people in KFC before, and I never feared it being racist. If I started making wise cracks about them eating chicken, that is racist.

Intent matters...

[Meks]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

The only thing you are saying with that comment is that its acceptable for black people to be racist but wrong when a white person is. Its not even the words used, its the intent behind the words. Thats why I disagree with people saying its wrong for a black person to use the word nigger/nigga. Their intent is completely different than Riley Coopers intent.


Intent matters...

pretty much lol ...

[Giantone]

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[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

monkey i am not picking on you per se but i always kinda roll my eyes when ppl try to defend or justify 1 person's specific negative act by pointing out all the other evil deeds that others might have done.

Not doing either...I was mentioning them to show how ridiculous the sometimes fake "outrage" by many people and how the media coverage of such a minor thing in comparison is completely out-of-whack.

But, that's the age we live in...shouting a racist word is treated as a worse crime and bigger issue than a typical Chicago weekend of 40-50 shootings.

[donofriose]

Words by themselves are not bad, they are just words. Its the context that matters. Also packers left tackle is out. Sucks for them because he had moved from right to left meaning their depth is even thinner on the line.

[SmootSmack]

I thought some of his teammates had a pretty interesting observation about Cooper. They said he wasn't racist (which wasn't the interesting part) but they said the bigger concern to them (at least from how I remember it) was that Cooper often gets crazy drunk when he goes out and gets out of control

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I thought some of his teammates had a pretty interesting observation about Cooper. They said he wasn't racist (which wasn't the interesting part) but they said the bigger concern to them (at least from how I remember it) was that Cooper often gets crazy drunk when he goes out and gets out of control

When that report came out about the team getting him some outside help, I wonder if that's more about the drinking vs. what he said.

[Lotus]

Is there anything more than coincidence that this year's two biggest off-field episodes (Cooper, Hernandez) involve former Florida Gators gone wild?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Is there anything more than coincidence that this year's two biggest off-field episodes (Cooper, Hernandez) involve former Florida Gators gone wild?

Still a long way to go before the magic of Tebow gets cancelled out.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Still a long way to go before the magic of Tebow gets cancelled out.

That's definitely true.

But I was after troublemaker Gators, not overhyped Gators. Is there something in the Gator football culture that leads to Hernandez-Cooper outcomes? I am genuinely just wondering.

[Chico23231]

That egostical lying prick Urban Meyer is the common denominator. He recruited them and let them do whatever they wanted at Florida. Eff him

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

That egostical lying prick Urban Meyer is the common denominator. He recruited them and let them do whatever they wanted at Florida. Eff him

Did you all know that Shanahan and Allen are drug dealers. Look at Trent Williams and Jarvis Jenkins. Shanahan and Allen are the common denominators. They drafted them and let them do what ever they wanted in Washington.

Sweeping generalizations for the win...

Does this site have a facepalm emote?

[Lotus]

Devin Thomas came up for discussion on the Warpath the other day. He has now left the Motor City.

Lions release Devin Thomas | ProFootballTalk