Darrell Green does not support Redskin name change

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I made the same point about the media twisting it into something negative.
Oh and in your next life you are coming back as a Native American. I think you are really underestimating the hurt that was put on them and how it literally changed the face of their existence as a people.
I mean - imagine if we were invaded, disease from the invading force wiped most of us out and the rest of us were rounded up and marched off to some remote part of the country? Would it really be that easy for you or your children or grand children, etc to just go " ahh hell ill learn their language and get a job, no hard feelings? "

I don't but there are plenty of examples of people over coming and moving on with life. The best example would be the Jews and what they have over come. I don't see them rehasing and making excuses because of what happened to them.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I don't but there are plenty of examples of people over coming and moving on with life. The best example would be the Jews and what they have over come. I don't see them rehasing and making excuses because of what happened to them.

So basically eff them? American indian culture is amazing, its ashame what has happened to them and the country should do more to perserve their culture. I think the name change issue is completely idoitic and the oneida are foolish to focus on such a stupid issue instead of drumming up support for more pressing needs for that community.

[Lotus]

firstdown, I recommend that you read this as a primer on Native American poverty:

Native American Poverty, by Tom Rodgers - Spotlight On Poverty

There are more articles out there but work is intervening for me.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Lotus

firstdown, I recommend that you read this as a primer on Native American poverty:

Native American Poverty, by Tom Rodgers - Spotlight On Poverty

There are more articles out there but work is intervening for me.

Sad stuff, but lets talk about a name. wtf...how about Peter King and Bob fucking costas get behind the real issues.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

So basically eff them? American indian culture is amazing, its ashame what has happened to them and the country should do more to perserve their culture. I think the name change issue is completely idoitic and the oneida are foolish to focus on such a stupid issue instead of drumming up support for more pressing needs for that community.

I never said anything close to that. Someone stated that the Indians got the short stick while I agree I responded with this.

"They did get the short stick but in life you have two choices. Keep holding onto that short stick or look to better what you have. "

I was just saying they can't keep on holding onto that short stick and need to move on. Alot of indians have moved on while holding on to trditions. I also agree with you they need to perserve their culture and traditions. Here is a good example of the city I live in giving land back to a tribe to build a replica village. I'll let you know if its worth visting when it finally opens.


Suffolk gives Nansemond tribe land for replica village | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

(snip)I think the name change issue is completely idoitic and the oneida are foolish to focus on such a stupid issue instead of drumming up support for more pressing needs for that community.

If there's one good thing to come out of the Redskin "controversy", I think this is it. And that would be a good outcome.

I fully expect the complete liberal IDIOTS that insisted the name is racist, to claim "We were only doing it to drum up support for native americans!!!!!" if they are finally called on their stupidity.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

If there's one good thing to come out of the Redskin "controversy", I think this is it. And that would be a good outcome.

I fully expect the complete liberal IDIOTS that insisted the name is racist, to claim "We were only doing it to drum up support for native americans!!!!!" if they are finally called on their stupidity.

Just what this thread needs, some political injection. Thanks for being that guy (no offense, the real that guy).

What's sad is that after gaining steam and eventually getting the name changed, everyone is going to go back to ignoring the Native Americans. And one more reminder of their presence will be removed from the mainstream.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well, November is Native American Heritage Month...so that's probably the best choice

yep. I thought November was some other cancer awarenes month, that's why I left it off.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Here's you opportunity.........
https://www.cherokee.org/AboutTheNat...geClasses.aspx

I think you missed my point....

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I think you missed my point....

The satire lamp.....is lit

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

yep. I thought November was some other cancer awarenes month, that's why I left it off.

What does this mean?
Edit: nevermind. I misread your original post.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Hog1

The satire lamp.....is lit

Um...flickering.....at best

[Lotus]

DC city council says the name should be changed.

Y! SPORTS

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I don't but there are plenty of examples of people over coming and moving on with life. The best example would be the Jews and what they have over come. I don't see them rehasing and making excuses because of what happened to them.

This country was not responsible for what happened to the jews though, and there was a world war in which Hitler and the Nazi regime was wiped out and shamed to this day. There is worldwide sympathy and disgust about what happened to the jews, and that is not the case for the native americans.
Also if you think the jews have "gotten over" the holocaust well you should talk to some. Who is making excuses? Jews? Native Americans? For what?
It really cones across as if u think it was their fault for what happened to them.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by punch it in

This country was not responsible for what happened to the jews though, and there was a world war in which Hitler and the Nazi regime was wiped out and shamed to this day. There is worldwide sympathy and disgust about what happened to the jews, and that is not the case for the native americans.
Also if you think the jews have "gotten over" the holocaust well you should talk to some. Who is making excuses? Jews? Native Americans? For what?
It really cones across as if u think it was their fault for what happened to them.

What the hell are you talking about. Where did I ever say they have "gotten over" what happened to them? The point I was making is that they don't dwell on the past they have moved on with life.

My quote.

"I don't but there are plenty of examples of people over coming and moving on with life. The best example would be the Jews and what they have over come. I don't see them rehasing and making excuses because of what happened to them."