WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If we want Stafford they’ll go get him.

Pats never trade picks for players , they won’t do it.

Colts maybe but they also like brissett a lot and he’s way cheaper.

SF and Washington are the top 2 IMO

Colts run Stanford's style of offense. Brisket has shown that he’s burnt. Doesn’t have what it takes.

SF doesn’t run the style of offense Stafford excels in. It’s going to be Indy or us. And there’s always a dark horse team no one expects.

[NYCskinfan82]

JMO we need a QB that has an arm first and is mobile as well.

[Warthog]

Rivera hasn’t gone after older FA since taking over the WFT. But Stafford is an immediate and big upgrade in a position of absolute need. The WFT is not going to be a contender, even with a Top 5 defense, until the QB issue is solved.

Watson may not be on the market this season. Even if he is, the price for him will be Absolutely HUGE. The WFT isn’t just ONE QB away from being elite. It needs OL, WR, TE, LB, CB,S PLUS a franchise QB. Watson will take 3 Firsts and maybe one of the teams best players (like Sweat, Payne or Allen) to get him.

Stafford is the centerpiece of a five year plan to build around. He will cost:

1. Definitely: A first in 2021.
2. Something more: a THIRD in 2022 ?
3. Something more: a fifth in 2021?

There are a couple teams that may want Stafford as much as we do. Colts - yes. Patriots - maybe. But the Pats have never had to give up draft picks for a player. They’re used to players coming TO THEM, to get a ring. But Belicheck now knows what happens when you don’t have the GOAT QB on your team. So he may adapt and bid for Stafford.

I think the new WFT GM and VP of Personnel were brought in JUST TO HANDLE THIS SORT OF NEGOTIATION/ Competition. Get Stafford for the lowest price. Bring in an elite WR - again without breaking the bank. Another FA position - bring in an excellent LB. Those three positions give you immediate returns and big upgrades over what they have now.

Kyle Smith was very good at finding good starters out of the dregs of the draft - third and below in the draft and UDFA. But just as important is making sure the top draft picks are ALSO WINNERS.

I think that if the team gets Stafford, the draft will go for the OL. They need to build the left side of the OL And DEPTH. So two draft picks at least.


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[skinsfaninok]

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Might as well stop reading after Dak lol

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

Might as well stop reading after Dak lol

I think Rodgers is going to be super interesting. Unlike Houston, GB already has their QB of the future. So they may not be pressed to get a top 10 pick in a potential trade. It will still cost to get him, but I'll be curious to see how bad the situation gets there, in terms of Rodgers not being happy.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

Might as well stop reading after Dak lol

Idk man I think Alex Smith might put us over the top.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Schefty says he is taking the over (over/under - 18) with regard to how many teams will be changing QBs this off-season. That is A LOT of competition for the eligible free agents, and any QBs that may be available for trade.

[Chief X_Phackter]

https://www.hogshaven.com/2021/1/12/...s-quarterbacks

Maybe this has been posted somewhere already, but it's a good breakdown of the WFT QB situation including salary cap implications, and potential free agent/trade targets.

[rocnrik]

It’s all great till the 19th pick we don’t give up for Stafford fails to produce or not worth the pick ... not every kid coming out of college makes a impact in the nfl.. at least with Stafford we know what we are getting ..Let’s not pretend the pick will be a winner ...

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

It’s all great till the 19th pick we don’t give up for Stafford fails to produce or not worth the pick ... not every kid coming out of college makes a impact in the nfl.. at least with Stafford we know what we are getting ..Let’s not pretend the pick will be a winner ...

Absolutely. Could end up with a Josh Doctson at #19...

The #19 pick for Stafford would be a no-brainer.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Absolutely. Could end up with a Josh Doctson at #19...

The #19 pick for Stafford would be a no-brainer.

agree but stafford eats up a lot cap space too.

i don't want any of our current QB's starting next year, bad QB play hinders everyone's development.

I also agree with the folks that are saying we are not just a QB away from being a contender.

I think if you make a play on stafford you got go out and get some more weapons specifically TE and WR.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mredskins

agree but stafford eats up a lot cap space too.

i don't want any of our current QB's starting next year, bad QB play hinders everyone's development.

I also agree with the folks that are saying we are not just a QB away from being a contender.

I think if you make a play on stafford you got go out and get some more weapons specifically TE and WR.

Good QBs, if you're lucky to have one, always eat up a lot of cap space. That's the nature of the position. However, I'm not trading for him unless there's an agreement to extend his contract for at least 4, preferably 5 years.

This team is a QB away from being a contender in the NFC East, but not beyond that. Still a lot of holes to fill, and current rostered players to bring back.

[sevier2]

If 32 year old Matthew Stafford went into the draft THIS YEAR with the other 2021 rookies, would he last until pick 19 for us? And if he did, would you take him there?

I think he's worth the 1st. If it takes an additional 3rd i'm not very upset either considering we have 2.

And in terms of his salary cap hit, his contract is more than manageable. In fact I'd almost call it a bargain in 2021. If he extends/resigns the way Smith did then it's a different story. But his current contract is extremely team friendly for a QB of his stature.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by mredskins

agree but stafford eats up a lot cap space too.

i don't want any of our current QB's starting next year, bad QB play hinders everyone's development.

I also agree with the folks that are saying we are not just a QB away from being a contender.

I think if you make a play on stafford you got go out and get some more weapons specifically TE and WR.

And then we maybe win a wildcard and nothing more, and in 2-3 years we need a QB again. You build through the draft. The players we should be signing in FA if possible are the lower cost players, MLB, FS, TE, and not the highest priced of those. Our FA may choose to address WR both ways, draft and FA, but lot of guys coming off injury makes it dicey.

You win in the NFL long term by treating draft picks like gold and acquiring gobs of young talent with them. If anything, we should be trading down and acquiring MORE picks, not squandering them on guys near end of career.

Stafford has taken a BEATING. He isn't playing until 40 like some other guys. So incredibly short sighted to trade for him. We should commit to finding a franchise QB in the draft, period, without a massive tradeup that mortgages the future ridiculously.