Classless Coach Belichick

[firstdown]

So I guess next time Tiger Woods has a ten stroke lead going into the final holes he should just chip and putt his way in so he does not humiliate the rest of the field. No, he wants to keep firing to show he is the best player and by how much he is the best player in the field.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by firstdown

So I guess next time Tiger Woods has a ten stroke lead going into the final holes he should just chip and putt his way in so he does not humiliate the rest of the field. No, he wants to keep firing to show he is the best player and by how much he is the best player in the field.

I can't remember where I read this, but it might have been here.

Somebody said that what the Patriots did was akin to defeating a boxer, and then kicking him in the head when he's down on the mat. Why not do that? Because there are times when a REAL MAN stops caring about his own ego, to spare the embarrassment of others.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I can't remember where I read this, but it might have been here.

Somebody said that what the Patriots did was akin to defeating a boxer, and then kicking him in the head when he's down on the mat. Why not do that? Because there are times when a REAL MAN stops caring about his own ego, to spare the embarrassment of others.

Well it is also against the rules.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well it is also against the rules.

True. It's just an example (and a poor one at that).

What do you have to say about sacrificing your own ego to spare the embarrassment of others? Is it okay to embarrass others to boost your own ego?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

True. It's just an example (and a poor one at that).

What do you have to say about sacrificing your own ego to spare the embarrassment of others? Is it okay to embarrass others to boost your own ego?

You call it "sacrificing your own ego". I say it's players doing their job.

Why aren't you as upset with the Redskin defensive players who so clearly didn't do theirs?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I can't remember where I read this, but it might have been here.

Somebody said that what the Patriots did was akin to defeating a boxer, and then kicking him in the head when he's down on the mat. Why not do that? Because there are times when a REAL MAN stops caring about his own ego, to spare the embarrassment of others.

No, that analogy doesn't fit. Once the boxer is on the floor out cold from a punch, the boxing match is over. In football, the game isn't over until the final gun sounds and the clock reads 0:00.

The Patriots did not physically attack or try to maim any Redskin players on the field. Scoring touchdowns is perfectly within the rules of the game regardless of the time on the clock.

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

No, that analogy doesn't fit. Once the boxer is on the floor out cold from a punch, the boxing match is over. In football, the game isn't over until the final gun sounds and the clock reads 0:00.

The Patriots did not physically attack or try to maim any Redskin players on the field. Scoring touchdowns is perfectly within the rules of the game regardless of the time on the clock.

exactly what I said check my post, and for you Beemnseven, check my other post.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by TheBigD

exactly what I said check my post, and for you Beemnseven, check my other post.

I understand what you said, and you're correct, the score was 45-0 and a field goal would have made it 48-0.

In either case, 52 - 49 does indeed equal 3. I misunderstood the error you were trying to point out.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by firstdown

So I guess next time Tiger Woods has a ten stroke lead going into the final holes he should just chip and putt his way in so he does not humiliate the rest of the field. No, he wants to keep firing to show he is the best player and by how much he is the best player in the field.

That's a terrible argument. No one is going to try to drive a ball into his skull if he embarrasses them on a golf course, whereas belichick is lucky as shit the Skins didn't take any cheap shots on brady (a team like the ravens might in a few weeks).
Once again, there was no justification for keeping brady on the field in the 4th quarter, much less going for it on 4th down.

[altima98]

Yes the Pats ran it up, so what. There either that damn good or we suck that bad. Crying about running up the score is for loosers, if you don't want them to run it up so do something about it. STOP THEM.

The last touch down was scored by there backup quarterback rushing in against the #3 defense... Stop Crying and DO SOMETHING ABOUT it....

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by altima98

Yes the Pats ran it up, so what. There either that damn good or we suck that bad. Crying about running up the score is for loosers, if you don't want them to run it up so do something about it. STOP THEM.

The last touch down was scored by there backup quarterback rushing in against the #3 defense... Stop Crying and DO SOMETHING ABOUT it....

how about you read through a couple of pages of posts before you come on here and shoot your mouth off?

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

how about you read through a couple of pages of posts before you come on here and shoot your mouth off?

It's getting pretty testy in here. I think there are a few people who need a break from the keyboard.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

It's getting pretty testy in here. I think there are a few people who need a break from the keyboard.

Yeah and I think this thread is running it's course. There are firm opinions on either side and we basically need to agree to disagree at some point. There's really no need for some of the personal bickering that seems to be developing.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by altima98

Yes the Pats ran it up, so what. There either that damn good or we suck that bad. Crying about running up the score is for loosers, if you don't want them to run it up so do something about it. STOP THEM.

The last touch down was scored by there backup quarterback rushing in against the #3 defense... Stop Crying and DO SOMETHING ABOUT it....

Do you care to elaborate? Why is, "crying about running up the score," for "loosers" (which you misspelled, btw)? Do you have any argument, or do you just want to repeat the hundreds of WEAK and BASELESS arguments that have already been said?

Think of something good to add to the discussion.

I want to welcome you to the board, and I don't want you to take this post the wrong way. I'm just sick of everyone saying the same weak crap, and not having any good points to make in favor of humiliation.

[BDBohnzie]

I figured this horse would have been buried a few hours ago...but it continues to be beat into the ground. So I guess I'll take a few swings.

I've watched a few opinions on the Idiot Box, and have read comments in this thread and elsewhere. I've also stated my opinion on the issue in this thread...but I think I've slightly changed my outlook.

Belicheck gave a big F you to the entire league by going for it twice on 4th down with a huge lead. He made a statement that says we are going to roll with guns blazing for 60 minutes, and there isn't a damn thing anyone is going to do to stop us. The week before, his defense almost let a 1-5 divisional rival back into the game, and he put the kabosh on that. Against the Skins, he decided that he wasn't going to let up. It could have been the Colts, Jets, Bills, Eagles, Cowboys, Ohio State, South Florida, Millsaps, Trinity, Salisbury, or Kentucky School for the Blind...no matter who was on the other sideline, Belicheck was going to continue to put points on the board for 60 minutes. Just so happens, the Redskins were the victim.

The difference between 52-7 and 44-7 is 8 points. Belicheck decided that those 8 points were more important than being the "better person" and letting sleeping dogs lie. The trend is not to keep starters on the field to risk injury when the game is in hand. He kept starters out on the field for much longer than necessary to secure a win, because he wanted to send a message. He decided those 8 points were enough to stroke his ego, knowing that he had embarrassed his opponent, and to show the league what level he could "rise" to in order to be on top once again.

He made his point, and along the way, disrespected a hall of fame coach. And Belicheck could care less. Some teams decide to sit on the ball with a 38 point lead in the 4th, bring in guys who dont get to normally play and give them some playing time. Again, Belicheck could care less. He simply does not care who gets in his way between now and his next Lombardi Trophy. He just wants the damn thing, and will do whatever he thinks it will take to get it.

The Redskins in turn, rolled over and played dead instead of going balls to the wall for 60 minutes. They knew they were outmatched, and played in tune with that attitude. They decided that they were going to use this experience to prepare for the rest of the season...or so us fans hope. Ego and pride took a huge hit on Sunday, and we'll see in the weeks to come how it affects how this team prepares and executes.

Was the score run up? Yes. Without a doubt. One could argue that there is a time and place for these things. I personally dont think a non-conference game is such the time and place, but I'm not Belicheck. He decided that going for it on 4th down in the 4th quarter with the game well in hand was worth it. I say, so what? Chalk it up to a lesson well learned, and if a Gibbs coached team sees Belicheck again, you know damn well this will be remembered.

So, what becomes of this? Well, the Redskins have some ground to make up in regards to themselves. They have to dig deep and get past this 1 game and continue on, knowing that they are better than what they showed on the field this past Sunday.

The Patriots on the other hand, have put the league on notice. Roll over, and you will get squashed. You'll hear about the big game this coming weekend. 8-0 Patriots vs. 7-0 Colts. It's not too often an undefeated Super Bowl winner is an underdog this late in the year. The Colts are somewhere in the neighborhood of 5.5 point dogs...and it's only Tuesday. The Patriots are the big man on campus right now, and they have a huge bullseye on their backs. They will have to continue to play at such a high level in order to continue to be successful. There's a reason only 1 team in NFL history has completed a season undefeated...will the Patriots becomes the 2nd? Only the next 8+ games will tell us...