WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Sandtrap, this is WAY different than the avg. holdout. The avg. holdout is a guy who is demanding a renegotiated contract, not a guy that just cashed the largest paycheck ever for his position in the nfl. Those guys that "kiss and make up" w/their team in the middle of training camp, usually only do so because they've just signed a new (bigger) contract.

The only thing the skins could do is go back to running a 4-3 defense. EVen then, he was unhappy w/the lack of freedom he had in the system last year.

Adam Schefter said there was a chance that the skins could get some of their money back because this case is "so egregious." How often have you heard that about a player not reporting?

This isn't really a holdout, it's a flat out no-show!

In the example I presented, I specifically mentioned Ochocinco. And he did not get a new contract, nor did the team give into his trade demands.

But when camp started and they started fining him, all of the sudden he was the MODEL Bengal, and showed up to camp.

This is not the first time this has happened in the NFL. Haynesworth is not reinventing the wheel.

Until an NFL player buys out his own contract to be traded or released, I do not pay heed to any trade or new contract demands from any player in the league. It is all just noise, that will have no affect.

Just sit back and watch with the other hold outs in the league. Chris Johnson, Revis, Andre Johnson. Come camp time they will play.

I dont see AH any different.

[calia]

How fitting that his initials are AH.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by calia

How fitting that his initials are AH.

Well put!

[SBXVII]

You guys keep forgetting that Arrington said the worst thing that could have happened to him was being benched. He sat there watching the team lose, hearing the fans calling him names, and ended up buying back his contract. lol. We should do the same with AH.

[Paintrain]

Plain and simple IMO, Hayneworth is a thief. The team said if you take the money, you are expected to attend mandatory activities. He took the money and is now refusing to attend. That's theft if you ask me.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Plain and simple IMO, Hayneworth is a thief. The team said if you take the money, you are expected to attend mandatory activities. He took the money and is now refusing to attend. That's theft if you ask me.

Couldn't agree more especially when Shanahan said to him in February if he wanted to be traded or taking the money. He took the money and ran or in his case waddled (the Fat Fuck!!).

[12thMan]

Three days ago I would have told you there's a possibility that Haynesworth would suit up and play against Dallas. After listening to the local radio show, including LaVar's rant (106.7) most of the day, there is no way in hell --NONE-- that the Redskins can keep this guy around. It's been 48 hours of non-stop Haynesworth hate and bashing here in D.C.; the anger is truly palpable. This situation sort of reminds me of when the organization was interviewing Jim Fassel for head coach and Snyder suddenly reversed course and ended up hiring Jim Zorn. There is a similiar backlash building against Haynesworth, but it's far more intense.

I think there's a campaign underway to print flyers with Haynesworth's picture with "wanted for stealing $21 million dollars" and distribute them in the Reston area. Because Dan Snyder is so PR concsious, I just don't see how he risks losing the new image and direction of the franchise by having Haynesworth on the roster for too much longer.

[skinsfan_nn]

Vinny the clown chimes in, "you know":

Redskins Insider - Cerrato: Haynesworth would like playing for Shanahan

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Vinny the clown chimes in, "you know":

Redskins Insider - Cerrato: Haynesworth would like playing for Shanahan

Vinny having an opinion on this is like the president of BP saying, 'You know, I would probably advise companies against drilling for oil in the Gulf.'

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Vinny the clown chimes in, "you know":

Redskins Insider - Cerrato: Haynesworth would like playing for Shanahan

If there's a guy people should be more pissed off at than AH, is this guy. We're in this f'ing mess because of him.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Vinny the clown chimes in, "you know":

Redskins Insider - Cerrato: Haynesworth would like playing for Shanahan

You know what though, for as much of a clown as Vinny is, he makes good points here.

"When he signed, he said he wanted to prove everybody wrong," said Cerrato, the team's executive vice president of football operations during the 2008-09 seasons. "He said he wanted to show everybody that it's not about the money. He said he wanted to be the best that ever played. He said he wanted to be like Reggie White. He said Reggie
White was his hero, so live up to what you said. Don't have it change just because a coach changed."

"I just think Albert should have been here in the offseason, so he would have understood what his role in the defense was going to be," Cerrato said. "I think his perception and what reality is are two different things. They weren't going to just play him at nose tackle from everything that I read. And if he can't understand that then
that's his fault. If he was here, he would know where he fits in. By not being here he doesn't know. All he knows is what he wants to know."

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You know what though, for as much of a clown as Vinny is, he makes good points here.

"I think his perception and what reality is are two different things. ... All he knows is what he wants to know."

Albert Haynesworth IS joetheismanfan!!!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You know what though, for as much of a clown as Vinny is, he makes good points here.

"When he signed, he said he wanted to prove everybody wrong," said Cerrato, the team's executive vice president of football operations during the 2008-09 seasons. "He said he wanted to show everybody that it's not about the money. He said he wanted to be the best that ever played. He said he wanted to be like Reggie White. He said Reggie
White was his hero, so live up to what you said. Don't have it change just because a coach changed."

"I just think Albert should have been here in the offseason, so he would have understood what his role in the defense was going to be," Cerrato said. "I think his perception and what reality is are two different things. They weren't going to just play him at nose tackle from everything that I read. And if he can't understand that then
that's his fault. If he was here, he would know where he fits in. By not being here he doesn't know. All he knows is what he wants to know."

The thing is after initially being frustrated about the switch, he came around to speaking to many of the guys at Redskins Park. Not the least of whom were Shanahan, Haslett, and Allen. And he told all of them, plus several players, hey I just want to help the team win and be the best player I can be. And after multiple conversations especially with Haslett, his attitude was "ok I think I understand what you want from me. I can do this. I like what's going on. I'm excited. I want to get in the best shape possible so I'm going to work out on my own in the spring but I'll be there for mini-camp." And he told that to multiple teammates, and he told it to friends and business partners outside the Redskins. That he had initial frustrations but after talking through it, he felt good.

But it turns out it was all a lie. Which is worse than just saying from the get go you want no part of it. And committing to that. I mean I guess you could argue he changed his mind back, but I'm not sure I buy that.

Look at it like this. As pissed off as Snyder was with Coles; Coles ultimately did the right thing. He spoke to Gibbs and I believe Musgrave and Hixon and said look I don't know where I fit in this offense I'm not sure it's for me. They spoke, he still wasn't convinced. Gibbs said ok, I respect that, let's see if we can find a better situation for you. Coles didn't say ok sounds good. I'll see you in June. And then the whole offseason goes through and suddenly Coles is like "yeah I didn't mean it"

Alls I know is Haynesworth has alienated many of even his staunchest supporters in the past couple of days

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The thing is after initially being frustrated about the switch, he came around to speaking to many of the guys at Redskins Park. Not the least of whom were Shanahan, Haslett, and Allen. And he told all of them, plus several players, hey I just want to help the team win and be the best player I can be. And after multiple conversations especially with Haslett, his attitude was "ok I think I understand what you want from me. I can do this. I like what's going on. I'm excited. I want to get in the best shape possible so I'm going to work out on my own in the spring but I'll be there for mini-camp." And he told that to multiple teammates, and he told it to friends and business partners outside the Redskins. That he had initial frustrations but after talking through it, he felt good.

But it turns out it was all a lie. Which is worse than just saying from the get go you want no part of it. And committing to that. I mean I guess you could argue he changed his mind back, but I'm not sure I buy that.

Look at it like this. As pissed off as Snyder was with Coles; Coles ultimately did the right thing. He spoke to Gibbs and I believe Musgrave and Hixon and said look I don't know where I fit in this offense I'm not sure it's for me. They spoke, he still wasn't convinced. Gibbs said ok, I respect that, let's see if we can find a better situation for you. Coles didn't say ok sounds good. I'll see you in June. And then the whole offseason goes through and suddenly Coles is like "yeah I didn't mean it"

Alls I know is Haynesworth has alienated many of even his staunchest supporters in the past couple of days

I guess I didn't really understand the Redskins fans who supported him until he skipped the mandatory practices. I thought some of them would support him no matter what. I was very wrong about that. Missing the mandatory work was the tipping point. I think that showed all of us that he did not intend to fulfill his end of the bargain and, with that realization, his support evaporated. In the end, we all care about the team first and that is a good thing.

So, I don't think the Haynesworth drama is all bad. Just look at the unity of Redskins Nation right now! We think that we might have a good thing going and we're not about to tolerate anyone who might screw it up. It reminds me of the good old days of George Allen and Joe Gibbs.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You know what though, for as much of a clown as Vinny is, he makes good points here.

"When he signed, he said he wanted to prove everybody wrong," said Cerrato, the team's executive vice president of football operations during the 2008-09 seasons. "He said he wanted to show everybody that it's not about the money. He said he wanted to be the best that ever played. He said he wanted to be like Reggie White. He said Reggie
White was his hero, so live up to what you said. Don't have it change just because a coach changed."

"I just think Albert should have been here in the offseason, so he would have understood what his role in the defense was going to be," Cerrato said. "I think his perception and what reality is are two different things. They weren't going to just play him at nose tackle from everything that I read. And if he can't understand that then
that's his fault. If he was here, he would know where he fits in. By not being here he doesn't know. All he knows is what he wants to know."

Well there's no way that donkey actually said these things. Cerrato isn't cognitive enough.