Redskins Lions postgame

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

What? that's effing retarded. horrible rex-like int where the ball needed to be thrown away.

Agreed, not sure what Doc was looking at. Griff should have thrown it in the stands.

[GTripp0012]

If you want to wait for Griffin to be truly, 100% back to the level of athlete he was last season, that means sitting him out for the entire season. A full Derrick Rose.

But for practical purposes in terms of functioning as an athlete at a high level, the guy is fine. No issues throwing the football or gaining velocity in open space. There's a limited amount of explosion in the knee. But: he's a quarterback. There's more explosion in that rehabbing knee than Peyton Manning has, and Manning's making out okay.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If you want to wait for Griffin to be truly, 100% back to the level of athlete he was last season, that means sitting him out for the entire season. A full Derrick Rose.

But for practical purposes in terms of functioning as an athlete at a high level, the guy is fine. No issues throwing the football or gaining velocity in open space. There's a limited amount of explosion in the knee. But: he's a quarterback. There's more explosion in that rehabbing knee than Peyton Manning has, and Manning's making out okay.

I think 90% would be good, but dont think he's there. I see less velocity in his throws

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think 90% would be good, but dont think he's there. I see less velocity in his throws

I don't, but it's a hard thing to measure. If you think 90% and I think 100%, we're both probably seeing what we want to. 90% and 100% both qualify as "just fine"

[Evilgrin]

Playing in the pocket more will make him better in the long run, he needs this.

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Playing in the pocket more will make him better in the long run, he needs this.

If you meant read option you are correct. Trading away 3 first rounders to make RG3 a 100 % drop back passer is absurd. The read option was made for RG3 and they better get back to it or watch this thing get real ugly.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Sonny9TD

If you meant read option you are correct. Trading away 3 first rounders to make RG3 a 100 % drop back passer is absurd. The read option was made for RG3 and they better get back to it or watch this thing get real ugly.

We're not talking about abandoning his running abilities, we're just developing the pocket passing while he physically comes back from this injury. He obviously should be and maybe can not be the runner he was in 2012, so using this time period to protect him while also developing and improving another part of his game will be beneficial in the long run. He'll return to his 2012 form, but you can't expect it 8 months after surgery without taking a single live snap even in a preseason game. He's healthy enough to be out there, but no player could completely take that much time off from football activities without needing some time to get timing and the mental part of the game back. He's throwing the ball very well with the exception of a few bad interceptions. On offense, it appears right now we're playing with the future, long-term goals of the team in mind rather than going all-out to win every week. Frustrating to watch but it will pay off when Robert is completely "back".

Look how awful Michael Vick has been trying to be a passing QB to extend his career. He has some highlights because Reid and Kelly go for big plays boom or bust, but he's been an inaccurate turnover machine when you look at the big picture. Robert will be miles ahead of him when that point comes in his career and this team will be better off because of it.

So now, we just have to watch and wait. If Griffin was not injured, there's no way he'd be attempting 50 passes in a game, EVER. But, we're in a unique spot where we have a running QB that we want to protect while he re-acquaints himself with the game. He's been effective as a pocket passer and he's improving every week and more importantly, with every week, his knee is getting stronger and stronger without injuring it again. He showed he can still take off and run. We'll see more and more of that as the season progresses. We may not call as many designed QB runs and it would probably be smart not to, but he'll still find his running lanes and turn losses into big gains out of no where.

Just practice sliding, Robert!

[Paintrain]

My final note before moving on to the Oakland game.. I hope we never play Detroit again when they are on an 0-?? streak. We embarassingly lost to break their winless streak over 2+ seasons and then their 21 game streak in Washington. Ugh.

[skinsfaninok]

RG3 blames “stupid rule” for his fumble: “It just sucks” | ProFootballTalk

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

RG3 blames “stupid rule” for his fumble: “It just sucks” | ProFootballTalk

Nope that fumble is 100% on him. really stupid play by rg3.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Nope that fumble is 100% on him. really stupid play by rg3.

I have to agree with you on that. No reason why Griffin couldn't have just slid feet first. Even if he lost the football, he would have been ruled down.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Nope that fumble is 100% on him. really stupid play by rg3.

He was sliding forward trying to make a play. Not gonna kill him for that. The ground caused the fumble. It should be our ball. That's just a terrible rule. Now the INT? That was a stupid play and all on RG3.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

He was sliding forward trying to make a play. Not gonna kill him for that. The ground caused the fumble. It should be our ball. That's just a terrible rule. Now the INT? That was a stupid play and all on RG3.

I agree it's a dumb rule. He clearly gave himself up. There shouldn't be a difference between going head first or feet first.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I agree it's a dumb rule. He clearly gave himself up. There shouldn't be a difference between going head first or feet first.

Well the problem with that is if an offensive player slides forward to get more yards should a defender be penalized for hitting them as they are going forward?

For example, if the first down was a yard a way and the QB was trying to dive for the first down and a defender was standing right there how would the defender know if the QB is giving himself up or not.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

He was sliding forward trying to make a play. Not gonna kill him for that. The ground caused the fumble. It should be our ball. That's just a terrible rule. Now the INT? That was a stupid play and all on RG3.

I knew the minute the ball came out it was a fumble. Its all on him to know the rules and not blame it on being a stupid rule for not knowing. With us wanting to portect him more and him knowing he needs to slide more he should have known the rule. Maybe take the time to read sliding rules while your between interviews.