Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

That's sad he went in to the season with a joke at QB. Even played with Beck's mind. He was the joke and Mike played him and us. mike <<<<< Gibbs.

I remember, that summer, I was speaking with my brother about going to a game and I told him, "Until they get a real quarterback, I'm not going to another game! Grossman and Beck?! There's not a starter between them, I'm not going this year." Obviously, I've lifted that ban since we drafted Griffin, but I was all kinds of angry that Mike Shanahan tried to sell me on the Grossman/Beck fiasco.

Btw, he was wrong to bench Grossman when he did too. Apparently, that just his MO

[DynamiteRave]

At least the Shanahans are keeping their stories consistent.

Kyle Shanahan “disappointed” by decision to shut down Griffin | ProFootballTalk

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

At least the Shanahans are keeping their stories consistent.

Kyle Shanahan “disappointed” by decision to shut down Griffin | ProFootballTalk

Amazing...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

At least the Shanahans are keeping their stories consistent.

Kyle Shanahan “disappointed” by decision to shut down Griffin | ProFootballTalk

Kyle trying to stay above the fray... keep his name clear for future gigs

[jdlea]

<sarcasm> I always appreciate an out of touch journalist trying to throw daggers at my generation and thinly veiling it as "sports journalism." </sarcasm>

Jason Whitlock is a joke.

The reason Snyder has not fired his lame-duck coach is because he realizes he played a role in Shanahan's inability to connect with RG III in a way that would've allowed Shanahan to humble Griffin and properly manage him. Snyder realizes Griffin needs to be humbled. Anyone objectively watching the Washington game film realizes Griffin is living in a false reality as a pocket passer. Anyone who witnessed Griffin's Week 1, flag-carrying, drop-to-his-knees, pregame jaunt onto the field realizes Griffin has a lot of work to do as a locker room leader.

He's lost in swagger, a bogus reality fueled by social media and a culture with little regard for humility and self-awareness. There's no guarantee he'll awaken from his fantasy world. But Mike Shanahan will soon clean out his office knowing he shook Griffin as hard as he could.

RG III a victim of his own swagger

Oh, is that why, Jason? Actually, I'm more sure that it's because Snyder probably knows firing him now a. accomplishes nothing and b. doesn't allow you enough to time to mount the evidence to fire him "with cause" so Snyder doesn't have to pay him.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by jdlea

<sarcasm> I always appreciate an out of touch journalist trying to throw daggers at my generation and thinly veiling it as "sports journalism." </sarcasm>

Jason Whitlock is a joke.

RG III a victim of his own swagger

Oh, is that why, Jason? Actually, I'm more sure that it's because Snyder probably knows firing him now a. accomplishes nothing and b. doesn't allow you enough to time to mount the evidence to fire him "with cause" so Snyder doesn't have to pay him.

Blaming Snyder was stupid but he hit the nail on the head with this part of the article.

Week 1, flag-carrying, drop-to-his-knees, pregame jaunt onto the field realizes Griffin has a lot of work to do as a locker room leader.

He's lost in swagger, a bogus reality fueled by social media and a culture with little regard for humility and self-awareness.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

At least the Shanahans are keeping their stories consistent.

Kyle Shanahan “disappointed” by decision to shut down Griffin | ProFootballTalk

Wow. Just wow.

Either these two are pathological or just incredible schemers.

Mike: Okay, I am going to hide your dislike of RGIII by taking all the heat. I'll let it leak out that I ... not you ... wanted to leave after last year, that I wanted to sit RGIII in Seattle but didn't, and I'll take the heat by benching him and making it look like it's all my decision.

Kyle: Sounds good Dad ... but how about this too - when you bench Robert, tell them you cleared it w/ Dan.

Mike: Oh ... that's good. Gonna throw Bruce in to, just to make it look like a "team" decision. Hee hee!

Kyle: Nice one.

Mike: Finally, just b/c I love you boy, I want you to toss me under the bus by saying you wanted Bobby to keep playing.

Kyle: Ahhhh, gee Dad, that's really cool of you! Don't you think that's going too far though? No one who knows anything will buy that!

Mike: LOLOLOL ... trust me. The sheeple will eat it up. I may come back and find a way to blame Dan for our "rift" but not quite sure how that would work ...

Kyle: I'll get to work on that Dad.

Mike: That's my boy!!

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Wow. Just wow.

Either these two are pathological or just incredible schemers.

Mike: Okay, I am going to hide your dislike of RGIII by taking all the heat. I'll let it leak out that I ... not you ... wanted to leave after last year, that I wanted to sit RGIII in Seattle but didn't, and I'll take the heat by benching him and making it look like it's all my decision.

Kyle: Sounds good Dad ... but how about this too - when you bench Robert, tell them you cleared it w/ Dan.

Mike: Oh ... that's good. Gonna throw Bruce in to, just to make it look like a "team" decision. Hee hee!

Kyle: Nice one.

Mike: Finally, just b/c I love you boy, I want you to toss me under the bus by saying you wanted Bobby to keep playing.

Kyle: Ahhhh, gee Dad, that's really cool of you! Don't you think that's going too far though? No one who knows anything will buy that!

Mike: LOLOLOL ... trust me. The sheeple will eat it up. I may come back and find a way to blame Dan for our "rift" but not quite sure how that would work ...

Kyle: I'll get to work on that Dad.

Mike: That's my boy!!

I imagine Thanksgiving dinner went exactly like this. Mike had this planned in advance. How long is anybody's guess. He didn't just show up after that Chiefs game and decide that he could bench RGIII the rest of season to protect his QB. That plan was made in advance.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Wow. Just wow.

Either these two are pathological or just incredible schemers.

Mike: Okay, I am going to hide your dislike of RGIII by taking all the heat. I'll let it leak out that I ... not you ... wanted to leave after last year, that I wanted to sit RGIII in Seattle but didn't, and I'll take the heat by benching him and making it look like it's all my decision.

Kyle: Sounds good Dad ... but how about this too - when you bench Robert, tell them you cleared it w/ Dan.

Mike: Oh ... that's good. Gonna throw Bruce in to, just to make it look like a "team" decision. Hee hee!

Kyle: Nice one.

Mike: Finally, just b/c I love you boy, I want you to toss me under the bus by saying you wanted Bobby to keep playing.

Kyle: Ahhhh, gee Dad, that's really cool of you! Don't you think that's going too far though? No one who knows anything will buy that!

Mike: LOLOLOL ... trust me. The sheeple will eat it up. I may come back and find a way to blame Dan for our "rift" but not quite sure how that would work ...

Kyle: I'll get to work on that Dad.

Mike: That's my boy!!

Now this is funny!!! LOL.

Personally I think MS brought his son on board, obviously, to help out his career. I think everyone is making the mistake that MS's scheme and KS's scheme are exactly the same. and the one they implemented for RG3's first year I think again was different ( I like to call RG3's scheme).

I think KS was given the opportunity to show off his scheme the first year and we started not so good under Sexy Rexy. I think halfway through the year or after atleast a few games MS decided to implement some of his running scheme into KS's scheme. Somewhere in there they tried to get Beck who has more mobility to make it work.

Year two MS implemented more of his scheme and brought McNabb into the fold who should have had more mobility and been able to make the system work. Failure.

Year three RG3 gets drafted and with limited time to work with him MS and KS realize they have too much work to do to get RG3 ready in time for the start of the season. Holy cow, no fan would want to hear that nor want to see the "Franchise" QB sitting on the bench because he's not ready. Snyder would throw a fit as well. So the next best thing is use a scheme RG3 knows and can run well.... in drops the Baylor scheme (spread/read option). Yeah some of KS's and MS's scheme was sprinkled but it was mostly the RG3 scheme. Built just for him to succeed. <Exactly what coaches should be doing. Success! Play off run. Injury.

Year four RG3 rehabbed all off season and again never got time to work on all his fundamentals. RG3 is hampered by the injury and brace. Clearly he will not out run the faster DE's but he might be mobile enough to still run the RG3 scheme. First two games proved he was not going to be able to. So KS and MS decide to go back to more of the traditional MS scheme and let the OL block for him creating a pocket. Except between the OL sucking and RG3 not staying in the pocket and stepping up in to it, it failed because RG3 would bail and run sometimes right into the path of the rushers.

What I think is going to happen for the last 3 games is we will see more of a traditional MS scheme and if it shines MS will have the evidence to throw back in DS's face and a reason for keeping him for one more year. If Cousins fails and it just looks as bad as it did with RG3 then no harm no foul MS was out the door anyway.

So what to do with RG3 if Cousins plays better? I'd keep RG3 and use the whole off season to have him study film and work on fundamentals so that come training camp hopefully he can take his place back as starter but if he still has trouble then MS can still use Cousins and keep developing RG3.

No the team does not have a first round pick, but I dont' think they are as concerned as much as the fans are about trading Cousins to get a pick. The team has $36 mill to go out and get vet who is considered a #1 and that would replace the lost pick this year. I'm sure with the bad season this team will have high draft picks in all 7 rounds so they will have the opportunity to pick up someone decent in the 2nd round.

[skinsfaninok]

Haha we r like Jerry Springer

[Gary84Clark]

I hope Dan learns a lesson he already knew. Never sign a deal where you can't fire the coach, GM, or whoever. Say look I'm making you the highest paid, can you give me results?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

I hope Dan learns a lesson he already knew. Never sign a deal where you can't fire the coach, GM, or whoever. Say look I'm making you the highest paid, can you give me results?

He can fire any of them any time he wants. I'm not so sure MS won't be on the sidelines next year.

[NC_Skins]

Just think guys. Come sometime in April, we'll be drafting Jadeveon Clowney!!!!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Just think guys. Come sometime in April, we'll be drafting Jadeveon Clowney!!!!

We're about three run ins with the law away from having that opportunity. Which we'll pass on.

[jamf]

Thats pretty much what went on.

I'm sure Kyle is already trying to line up a job.