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Old 05-23-2017, 07:36 PM   #1
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Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag

Honestly, what sticks out to me is the first positive comments KC has said about staying in DC have come AFTER SM was fired. Before this it has been consistent "the ball is in their court" blah blah blah.

Also last year at the combine SM was talking to the media in full "its not just about the QB" mode.

KC is so careful and well coached in what he says I cant help but put some weight in the fact that the only positive comments KC has said in two years have come in the last month.....
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Honestly, what sticks out to me is the first positive comments KC has said about staying in DC have come AFTER SM was fired. Before this it has been consistent "the ball is in their court" blah blah blah.

Also last year at the combine SM was talking to the media in full "its not just about the QB" mode.

KC is so careful and well coached in what he says I cant help but put some weight in the fact that the only positive comments KC has said in two years have come in the last month.....
that's an interesting point. Cousins comments at the OTA's sound like he feels a deal will get done too, it just might drag out to the deadline in July.
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In his 2 yrs at starter, Kirk is 3rd in the NFL QBR. Only trails Brady and Ryan
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In his 2 yrs at starter, Kirk is 3rd in the NFL QBR. Only trails Brady and Ryan
Stop trying to use facts to support your argument. It is confusing to those on the other side.
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Old 05-28-2017, 10:29 AM   #5
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Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag

July 15th is sill 40+ days away. Can't wait to read 237 more stories that say the exact same thing. And I'll read them all because I'm sick and can't help myself.
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In his 2 yrs at starter, Kirk is 3rd in the NFL QBR. Only trails Brady and Ryan
and he is the WORST QB in red-zone efficiency:

Kirk Cousins has been the NFL's worst red zone QB, and it's not close | FOX Sports

We can all grab onto a stat or 2 to back our sides.

At this point, I think a fair contract, where he earns about 18 - 20 million a season is right on, based on where contracts are TODAY.
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and he is the WORST QB in red-zone efficiency:

Kirk Cousins has been the NFL's worst red zone QB, and it's not close | FOX Sports

We can all grab onto a stat or 2 to back our sides.

At this point, I think a fair contract, where he earns about 18 - 20 million a season is right on, based on where contracts are TODAY.
cousins needed to be better in the red zone...can't disagree BUT Sean mcvay did him zero favors in terms of strategy and scheme. It was sickening to watch them abandon the run...it's a recipe for failure around the end zone. Also desean and crowder...both small but weren't used correctly.

Call me crazy, I'm looking forward to Gruden calling plays again.
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Not going to make excuses for Cousins but our squad was not remotely set up for red zone success. No size at WR, calling fades, mediocre goal line RB.

If he still sucks at it this year, no excuses. There's length at WR, a smash mouth beast at RB for short yardage, no excuses now.
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Not going to make excuses for Cousins but our squad was not remotely set up for red zone success. No size at WR, calling fades, mediocre goal line RB.

If he still sucks at it this year, no excuses. There's length at WR, a smash mouth beast at RB for short yardage, no excuses now.
I agree 100% with your post but there is still the contract dilemma. If the Skins are concerned about Kirk's Red Zone play and they wait yet another year to see if that improves prior to seriously trying to sign him long-term what would that contract look like, how much would it adversely affect re-signing other players, and would Kirk even want to be here after all that has transpired? All of those questions are still unanswered.

Depending on what, if anything, the Skins still want to see from Kirk before they make an honest attempt to sign him LT, they may never see it. Yet that doesn't necessarily mean he wouldn't be a good choice to be The Man at QB for them. It is one thing to be risk adverse to a reasonable degree and another to be paralyzed by indecision. I'm beginning to think that Skins management is afflicted by the latter.
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I agree 100% with your post but there is still the contract dilemma. If the Skins are concerned about Kirk's Red Zone play and they wait yet another year to see if that improves prior to seriously trying to sign him long-term what would that contract look like, how much would it adversely affect re-signing other players, and would Kirk even want to be here after all that has transpired? All of those questions are still unanswered.

Depending on what, if anything, the Skins still want to see from Kirk before they make an honest attempt to sign him LT, they may never see it. Yet that doesn't necessarily mean he wouldn't be a good choice to be The Man at QB for them. It is one thing to be risk adverse to a reasonable degree and another to be paralyzed by indecision. I'm beginning to think that Skins management is afflicted by the latter.
Agreed.

Even if we don't improve in the redzone (and I hardly see how we could NOT improve), with a better defense we are a playoffs team...

I want them to sign him, and my guts say it will happen just before the deadline.

The only thing worrying me is: do they want another year to see what KC's capable of without Sean McVay?...
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"That's why I'm excited about the coming year and maybe for the next 5 or 6 years and try to put together a special streak here." Kirk Cousins

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Old 05-30-2017, 01:15 PM   #12
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If it is not an 11th hour deal on July 14th, I think they are content to allow KC to play under tag again this season. They might tag him again next season, but I doubt he will play under that tag. Chances are if they have to tag him that third time, he will be traded before that tag takes affect. Can't see Bruce Allen paying 32m for one year. But I also cannot see him letting KC walk without anything to show in return.
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Report: Kirk Cousins contract talks picking up | ProFootballTalk
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Old 06-07-2017, 09:19 AM   #14
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Oh yes yes yes

"Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Allen and Cousins’ agent Mike McCartney had their first face-to-face meeting about the contract for the first time in two years at last month’s league meetings. They have since met a second time, which is part of an “improved, encouraging tone” that has created hope that a deal could get done by the deadline or after the 2017 season if things don’t move quite that quickly."

I've kept hope all along, firm believer that the deadline is going to shake things up, but this is a really good sign.

Of course if you're 100% sure a deal will not happen, you could see that as a sign each part is just trying not to look like the side who made a deal impossible to be done.

But I don't see why KC wouldn't want to win millions of dollars playing on a team he's been doing great in (if they offer him a proper deal) and I don't see why the Redskins wouldn't want to sign their first decent QB in forever to a LTD rather than paying him even more for a potentiel 3rd tag...
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Old 06-07-2017, 09:44 AM   #15
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Im glad to read that talks have resumed and that Dan Snyder has now personally expressed to Cousins's side that he wants Kirk to be his long-term QB. That should help a lot.
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