What's your take on our coaching?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by redsk1

I don't pretend to follow the Niners that much but it looks like they have some good pieces.

Frank Gore is a top 5-10 back.
They have a good OL.
Patrick Willis is really good.
Young talent on defense.
Davis is a good TE.
Ginn is a ST weapon.

So, theyve got some pieces to work w/.

More than Shanny had when he took over that's for sure.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

More than Shanny had when he took over that's for sure.

True, but when given square pieces, Harbaugh does a great job of making the holes square to fit them in. Good D, good running game- manage it well and don't force Alex Smith to win or lose the game for you. He's done a fantastic job at adjusting the game plans to accentuate his players strengths. Shanahan- not so much. He did a better job yesterday with the quick throws, but overall, he's trying to force his system, and not really adjusting.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

More than Shanny had when he took over that's for sure.

We will eventually come to the realization that this is a process that's going to take time to complete. Shanahan has been reluctant at times to use the word "rebuilding", but it's clear, situations and circumstances have forced him to go with younger players that are gaining valuable experience.

This is what rebuilding looks like

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

More than Shanny had when he took over that's for sure.

I think this is fallacious.

Shanny took over a team that had Jason Campbell, Clinton Portis, Santana Moss, Chris Cooley, Fred Davis, Albert Haynesworth, Andre Carter, Brian Orakpo, London Fletcher, Carlos Rogers, DeAngelo Hall, and LaRon Landry. That core was as talented as any core that changed its coaching staff over in the last two seasons.

I think it would be correct to say that that core hasn't produced very much in the Shanahan era. But plenty of the blame for that lies in who they decided to keep and who they decided to jettison.

And if Harbaugh had taken the job and decided to start gutting the roster of talented guys who didn't fit his scheme: dumped Smith, traded Vernon Davis, benched Crabtree, brought in some veterans to fill holes on defense instead of playing young guys like Navarro Bowman, Ray McDonald, Ahmad Brooks, and Ricky Jean-Francois, I think it's safe to say the 49ers wouldn't be 7-1 and seriously eyeing the super bowl.

But whose fault would that be? Mike Singletary's fault? Trent Baalke's fault? I guess. In a world where the current guy is never responsible for the state of the roster, you have to find a scapegoat I suppose.

[skinster]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

They(coaches) are trying to make chicken salad out of chicken poop but Harbaugh's chicken salad looks great.

3 first round o-linemen, Pro bowl back, pro bowl TE, two WR's taken in the top 10. Given Alex smith isn't good, I don't think we can say its the same tools around him. I don't think it will be good chicken salad untill they get get a better qb, but the pieces around him prevent them from being chicken poop.

Plus when comparing us to them, we need to take into account injuries.

[Ruhskins]

Apparently we're not rebuilding...

dcsportsbog Dan Steinberg
Shanny tells Grant Paulsen he doesn't even know what he means by "rebuilding."

RickMaese Rick Maese
Shanahan doesn't use word "rebuilding." Says young guys are in there because of injuries #redskinswp

...or maybe we are!

dcsportsbog Dan Steinberg
And now Shanahan says he told Kyle two years ago they were going to have to rebuild the football team.

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Apparently we're not rebuilding...

dcsportsbog Dan Steinberg
Shanny tells Grant Paulsen he doesn't even know what he means by "rebuilding."

RickMaese Rick Maese
Shanahan doesn't use word "rebuilding." Says young guys are in there because of injuries #redskinswp

...or maybe we are!

dcsportsbog Dan Steinberg
And now Shanahan says he told Kyle two years ago they were going to have to rebuild the football team.

I bet he also told Kyle we're going to DC to fatten our bank accounts!!
rebuilding asskickin, whats the freaking difference.

[SmootSmack]

A rose by any other name...

[Ruhskins]

Speaking of coaching, kudos to Wade Smith for turning the Texans into a top D:

"AlbertBreer Albert Breer
Absolutely stunning: The Houston Texans have the NFL's No. 1-ranked defense. They were 30th last year. Amazing work by Wade."

But I guess the Texans were able to do this because they have a potent offense. I really thought the move would be a waste of Mario Williams, but when he was healthy he played well.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Speaking of coaching, kudos to Wade Smith for turning the Texans into a top D:

"AlbertBreer Albert Breer
Absolutely stunning: The Houston Texans have the NFL's No. 1-ranked defense. They were 30th last year. Amazing work by Wade."

But I guess the Texans were able to do this because they have a potent offense. I really thought the move would be a waste of Mario Williams, but when he was healthy he played well.

Wade Phillips? I think Wade Smith actually is a lineman for the Texans though...

[musicmaster45]

NFL.com news: Shanahan warned son Kyle not to take Redskins' OC job

Interesting. Kyle choose to be here and Mike only kinda wanted him

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by musicmaster45

NFL.com news: Shanahan warned son Kyle not to take Redskins' OC job

Interesting. Kyle choose to be here and Mike only kinda wanted him

I tried to tell people this. Noooo.... Reading coach speak and learning when they are bullshitting is key. When the guy says things, like in this article, and when he says "this is going to take time", he's telling you "this team sucks and we are rebuilding" without actually using those words. Team was so devoid of talent. It's just the Skins fans put their players on some sort of high pedestal that isn't indicative of their real talent. My only problem with his plan of rebuilding was bringing in McDummy.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by musicmaster45

NFL.com news: Shanahan warned son Kyle not to take Redskins' OC job

Interesting. Kyle choose to be here and Mike only kinda wanted him

The comment under the article mentions the opportunity cost (w/o using the term) of Mike choosing to blow up the defense instead of concentrating on the offense right off the bat. I think the honest observer would admit the defense isn't even as good as what he inherited, and especially if you consider that probably adding a great FS and one more corner and we'd have made that top 10 defense an elite one. Instead the offense is the worst it's been in several years and the defense is still worse than it was.

I can't effing believe Mike still has supporters...it's just laughable. Every football fan I talk to outside Skins fans (and even some of them) see Mike has lost it and most of the roster has mailed it in. Ugh.

On a brighter note the level of play apart from Washington has been better than I expected w/ the lockout and compressed preseason.

[SmootSmack]

The real test will be what will Harbaugh do when Alex Smith is a free agent at the end of this year. His hands were a bit tied because of the lockout, which is a big reason he didn't make many moves particularly at QB. But after this season, will he offer the big money to Smith and say "yes you're my guy" or will he say "thanks, but I just needed a temporary solution"

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The real test will be what will Harbaugh do when Alex Smith is a free agent at the end of this year. His hands were a bit tied because of the lockout, which is a big reason he didn't make many moves particularly at QB. But after this season, will he offer the big money to Smith and say "yes you're my guy" or will he say "thanks, but I just needed a temporary solution"

My guess is he will get a raise (cap friendly and affordable) and if not, Kaapernick is being groomed.