Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft

[redsk1]

Giants gave up what was thought to be alot for Eli to move up a few spots. We all know how that turned out...

I guess they like RGIII enough...so I'll trust MS on this one.

[Bushead]

After a night to sleep on it:

First: So all the picks they gave away are technically all under the Shanahan regime. They go right up to the end of his 5 year contract, which I think is a bit of coincidence and necessity. I really think Snyder is committed with sticking to just one guy for a while and that he's not on the hot seat this year, even with one more mediocre year (unless it's a bomb like 2-14 or something). So theoretically, it's not in the past where coaches are mortgaging the future for other coaches.

Second: I had some sticker shock when I learned of what they gave up, but then I realized there must of been very high interest from other teams that made them to do this. Hell, latest reports were CLE would match the deal, so I'm sure they were strong in the running along with other teams which we don't know about that drove the price up.

Third: They are very high on Griffen (along with a lot of other people) and they knew their QB situation was bad. The "safe" move I suppose would be to have drafted maybe Tannenhill or sign Orton, spent the other picks continuing to build the "base", and then in the next year draft their highly touted QB. But, they got their guy who is a very good fit for the system of bootlegs and moving around and can finally say they have drafted their franchise QB.

And Most Important:

Fourth: I am really interested to see how they approach Free Agency. This entire emotion behind this move feels like the Redskins of Old . We are posting pictures of RG3 in redskins gear hosting trophies and most of us have already though of that first bootleg roll out when RG3 has plenty of space in front of him. It's another big splash, big move, lots of hype, but who knows what will show up on the field.

I hope they approach FA like they did last year: making solid above average signings for reasonable cash. The only place I see them going overboard is WR. If they go out and get all the big names and bring in a ton of people, I'm not sure if this is really a new way of running the redskins.

[coggs]

A lot to give up. I'll play Captain Obvious here and give the super insightful opinion that this will be the start of a great era for the Skins (ala the Colts and Peyton) or push them further into disaster (Browns and Tim Couch).

My first thought is they gave up too much, but I thought the same thing when my squad landed Eli so what the hell do I know?

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Bushead

After a night to sleep on it:

First: So all the picks they gave away are technically all under the Shanahan regime. They go right up to the end of his 5 year contract, which I think is a bit of coincidence and necessity. I really think Snyder is committed with sticking to just one guy for a while and that he's not on the hot seat this year, even with one more mediocre year (unless it's a bomb like 2-14 or something). So theoretically, it's not in the past where coaches are mortgaging the future for other coaches.

Second: I had some sticker shock when I learned of what they gave up, but then I realized there must of been very high interest from other teams that made them to do this. Hell, latest reports were CLE would match the deal, so I'm sure they were strong in the running along with other teams which we don't know about that drove the price up.

Third: They are very high on Griffen (along with a lot of other people) and they knew their QB situation was bad. The "safe" move I suppose would be to have drafted maybe Tannenhill or sign Orton, spent the other picks continuing to build the "base", and then in the next year draft their highly touted QB. But, they got their guy who is a very good fit for the system of bootlegs and moving around and can finally say they have drafted their franchise QB.

And Most Important:

Fourth: I am really interested to see how they approach Free Agency. This entire emotion behind this move feels like the Redskins of Old . We are posting pictures of RG3 in redskins gear hosting trophies and most of us have already though of that first bootleg roll out when RG3 has plenty of space in front of him. It's another big splash, big move, lots of hype, but who knows what will show up on the field.

I hope they approach FA like they did last year: making solid above average signings for reasonable cash. The only place I see them going overboard is WR. If they go out and get all the big names and bring in a ton of people, I'm not sure if this is really a new way of running the redskins.

Very well said. It took me a night to sleep on it too. I was a pretty pissed we gave up so much but at the end of the day im very excited at the prospect of stability at the qb position for years to come.

I hope we do a complete repeat of fa like last year too. Should be interesting w wr though, i wonder if the elite want to work w a rookie qb?

[Hail to the Redskins]

Speaking of WRs... adding:

Free Agents:
M. Colston (V.Jax worries me for the ton of $ he will command) &
E. Royal (some untapped potential I believe & has done well under Shanny before)

And in the draft:
Joe Adams in the 3rd Round

Gives RGIII THIS to throw to:
M. Colston
L. Hankerson
J. Gaffney
E. Royal
J. Adams
S. Moss
F. Davis
C. Cooley
R. Helu - out of the backfield

Come on .... All 3 I'm talking about adding are very feasible... and I believe any QB would be satisfied with that stable of receivers.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

Speaking of WRs... adding:

Free Agents:
M. Colston (V.Jax worries me for the ton of $ he will command) &
E. Royal (some untapped potential I believe & has done well under Shanny before)

colston won't be cheap, won't have brees throwing to him, and still has injury issues. not that VJ is without his own problems, but the best WRs got tagged, and I think VJ is better than colston if the money's equal.

i'd look at meachem for cost effectiveness. that's the quality guy that won't break the bank. royal's been linked already and he's not going to get any kind of money, so of course that'd make sense... I mean, why not?

[coggs]

Originally Posted by Bushead

After a night to sleep on it:

First: So all the picks they gave away are technically all under the Shanahan regime. They go right up to the end of his 5 year contract, which I think is a bit of coincidence and necessity. I really think Snyder is committed with sticking to just one guy for a while and that he's not on the hot seat this year, even with one more mediocre year (unless it's a bomb like 2-14 or something). So theoretically, it's not in the past where coaches are mortgaging the future for other coaches.

Second: I had some sticker shock when I learned of what they gave up, but then I realized there must of been very high interest from other teams that made them to do this. Hell, latest reports were CLE would match the deal, so I'm sure they were strong in the running along with other teams which we don't know about that drove the price up.

Even if they do go 2-14, 3-13 (don't think they will), they can't can Shanahan. Have to give him a year to break the kid in, even if it means taking a beating. Peyton went 3-13 his first year, the Colts didnt can Mora, they were 13-3 in his second.

As for what other teams had offered. Cleveland from what I have read was offering the two 1's this year plus some combo of 2's and 3's. Skins had to give the extra 1 to beat it and because of the uncertainty. No guarantee the Skins pick next year will be earlier than the Browns 22nd overall.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Bushead

After a night to sleep on it:

First: So all the picks they gave away are technically all under the Shanahan regime. They go right up to the end of his 5 year contract, which I think is a bit of coincidence and necessity. I really think Snyder is committed with sticking to just one guy for a while and that he's not on the hot seat this year, even with one more mediocre year (unless it's a bomb like 2-14 or something). So theoretically, it's not in the past where coaches are mortgaging the future for other coaches.

Second: I had some sticker shock when I learned of what they gave up, but then I realized there must of been very high interest from other teams that made them to do this. Hell, latest reports were CLE would match the deal, so I'm sure they were strong in the running along with other teams which we don't know about that drove the price up.

Third: They are very high on Griffen (along with a lot of other people) and they knew their QB situation was bad. The "safe" move I suppose would be to have drafted maybe Tannenhill or sign Orton, spent the other picks continuing to build the "base", and then in the next year draft their highly touted QB. But, they got their guy who is a very good fit for the system of bootlegs and moving around and can finally say they have drafted their franchise QB.

And Most Important:

Fourth: I am really interested to see how they approach Free Agency. This entire emotion behind this move feels like the Redskins of Old . We are posting pictures of RG3 in redskins gear hosting trophies and most of us have already though of that first bootleg roll out when RG3 has plenty of space in front of him. It's another big splash, big move, lots of hype, but who knows what will show up on the field.

I hope they approach FA like they did last year: making solid above average signings for reasonable cash. The only place I see them going overboard is WR. If they go out and get all the big names and bring in a ton of people, I'm not sure if this is really a new way of running the redskins.

I think what this really shows is it's an organization (and fan base) that's desperate and impatient.

[81forHOF]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think what this really shows is it's an organization (and fan base) that's desperate and impatient.

I agree. I really think they could have played this a little differently. I think the price was too high but the reality of the situation is that we are desperate. We have started 21QBs since our last Super Bowl. If we end up with another trophy then it was worth it.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by 81forHOF

I agree. I really think they could have played this a little differently. I think the price was too high but the reality of the situation is that we are desperate. We have started 21QBs since our last Super Bowl. If we end up with another trophy then it was worth it.

How are we desperate? We've been patient enough to go 20 years without a franchise QB. That's the ultimate showing of patience to me. Elite, franchise QB's don't grow on trees. You going to have to 1) Pay through the nose to get one no matter how you go about it, OR 2) Be the worst team in the league. I would rather be #1 because that means we are closer to being a winning football team.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Bushead

After a night to sleep on it:

First: So all the picks they gave away are technically all under the Shanahan regime. They go right up to the end of his 5 year contract, which I think is a bit of coincidence and necessity. I really think Snyder is committed with sticking to just one guy for a while and that he's not on the hot seat this year, even with one more mediocre year (unless it's a bomb like 2-14 or something). So theoretically, it's not in the past where coaches are mortgaging the future for other coaches.

Second: I had some sticker shock when I learned of what they gave up, but then I realized there must of been very high interest from other teams that made them to do this. Hell, latest reports were CLE would match the deal, so I'm sure they were strong in the running along with other teams which we don't know about that drove the price up.

Third: They are very high on Griffen (along with a lot of other people) and they knew their QB situation was bad. The "safe" move I suppose would be to have drafted maybe Tannenhill or sign Orton, spent the other picks continuing to build the "base", and then in the next year draft their highly touted QB. But, they got their guy who is a very good fit for the system of bootlegs and moving around and can finally say they have drafted their franchise QB.

And Most Important:

Fourth: I am really interested to see how they approach Free Agency. This entire emotion behind this move feels like the Redskins of Old . We are posting pictures of RG3 in redskins gear hosting trophies and most of us have already though of that first bootleg roll out when RG3 has plenty of space in front of him. It's another big splash, big move, lots of hype, but who knows what will show up on the field.

I hope they approach FA like they did last year: making solid above average signings for reasonable cash. The only place I see them going overboard is WR. If they go out and get all the big names and bring in a ton of people, I'm not sure if this is really a new way of running the redskins.

I'm like you.

I went to bed last night and woke up this morning, and immediately turned on sportscenter to make sure this wasn't a dream.

I truly think we made this move now, because of Free Agency approaching. We don't/didn't have an appealing QB for other guys to come here and play with. We'll find out if Vincent Jackson likes us more now (or less cause of a rookie QB) to come here. I've been hyping up Marques Colston, but I didn't know that he's mad two major knee surgeries the past couple of years according to Peter King.

All in all, when we look at this trade, ON PAPER we got our franchise QB. But this and what we gave up doesn't mean anything until we see this guy play in some games. Will he be Cam Newton? Mike Vick? Akili Smith? Andre Ware? We'll see skin fans.

[Mechanix544]

this years second

[Jamaican'Skin]

Honestly, it's a hefty price for an unknown, but he's seen as the franchise. I think if we didn't pull the trigger on this deal, there would have been more complaints about being satisfied with the mediocrity we've seen here for however long. I think free agency will be our lost draft picks. I have to believe this is part of the Shanaplan, because if I don't there's a 2 liter bottle of Everclear with my name on it.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Not only that, with some improvement (hopefully) those first rounders might be in the high twenties.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I think it will be huge now to make sure that Fletcher is resigned and we get at least ONE of the marquee names at WR.