Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday

[CrazyCanuck]

Kyle: And don't worry dad, I'm gonna pull out the real playbook this week for Cousins. It will be my best coaching performance ever and Cousins will shine. Then we can blame everything on RG3 and ride off into the sunset!

Mike: That's my boy!!

[donofriose]

Even Jake Plummer didnt like Mike all that much.

Former Mike Shanahan pupil Jake Plummer feels for RG3

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Even Jake Plummer didnt like Mike all that much.

Former Mike Shanahan pupil Jake Plummer feels for RG3

I find it funny that while everyone is bashing the crap out of MS, and he deserves a lot of heat, the current vets on this team seem to have his back.

As far as Plummer is concerned, his career was in the toilet until MS signed him. MS wants his QB to live at the facility during the off season and Plummer wasn't willing to do that.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I find it funny that while everyone is bashing the crap out of MS, and he deserves a lot of heat, the current vets on this team seem to have his back.

As far as Plummer is concerned, his career was in the toilet until MS signed him. MS wants his QB to live at the facility during the off season and Plummer wasn't willing to do that.

They are just trying to stay out of the spotlight.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I find it funny that while everyone is bashing the crap out of MS, and he deserves a lot of heat, the current vets on this team seem to have his back.

As far as Plummer is concerned, his career was in the toilet until MS signed him. MS wants his QB to live at the facility during the off season and Plummer wasn't willing to do that.

After he's not their direct supervisor, people will talk.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I find it funny that while everyone is bashing the crap out of MS, and he deserves a lot of heat, the current vets on this team seem to have his back.

Taking a page out of your book... what else are the players going to say? Especially the vets that know it's best to just keep your mouth shut and play.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Well I won't be watching. Call me when FA starts.

[mbedner3420]

Question to ponder: Had Mike and Kyle snagged Manning two years ago as originally intended, assuming this season was as equally disastrous and Manning and Snyder developed a similar relationship to that of the Snyder-Griffin one, would Mike have benched Peyton too?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by mbedner3420

Question to ponder: Had Mike and Kyle snagged Manning two years ago as originally intended, assuming this season was as equally disastrous and Manning and Snyder developed a similar relationship to that of the Snyder-Griffin one, would Mike have benched Peyton too?

Interesting question. Who knows?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by mbedner3420

Question to ponder: Had Mike and Kyle snagged Manning two years ago as originally intended, assuming this season was as equally disastrous and Manning and Snyder developed a similar relationship to that of the Snyder-Griffin one, would Mike have benched Peyton too?

Griffin has been horrible. Manning has not. Griffin is a diva who never accepts responsibility for his own failings. Manning is a true leader and takes responsibility for the failings of his teammates. This situation would never happen with manning because manning is a classy hall of fame player and rg3 is like a petulant child who feels he's entitled to respect he hasn't earned.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Griffin has been horrible. Manning has not. Griffin is a diva who never accepts responsibility for his own failings. Manning is a true leader and takes responsibility for the failings of his teammates. This situation would never happen with manning because manning is a classy hall of fame player and rg3 is like a petulant child who feels he's entitled to respect he hasn't earned.

So basically RG3 in his second year learning while Manning is a vet and knows what to say. Lets remember Manning wasnt quite Manning in his first couple of years. Wasn't it his 4th year where he threw 23 interceptions?
Also Manning had deflected blame from himself in his younger days. Imagine if RG3 came out and said they had "protection issues" like Manning did after the Colts played Pitt a couple of years back. Hopefully RG3 will learn just like Manning did how to say the right things and be a better QB. Or maybe Cousins will instead.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by donofriose

So basically RG3 in his second year learning while Manning is a vet and knows what to say. Lets remember Manning wasnt quite Manning in his first couple of years. Wasn't it his 4th year where he threw 23 interceptions?
Also Manning had deflected blame from himself in his younger days. Imagine if RG3 came out and said they had "protection issues" like Manning did after the Colts played Pitt a couple of years back. Hopefully RG3 will learn just like Manning did how to say the right things and be a better QB. Or maybe Cousins will instead.

I'm not comparing 2nd year manning to 2nd year rg3. I'm comparing 2013 manning to 2013 rg3. We would not have this drama if we'd gotten manning.... However with the cap penalty I'm not sure how we could have anyways. Right now, I don't think rg3 has the respect of his coaches or teammates. He needs to grow up in this offseason if he wants to have a future in the league.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I'm not comparing 2nd year manning to 2nd year rg3. I'm comparing 2013 manning to 2013 rg3. We would not have this drama if we'd gotten manning.... However with the cap penalty I'm not sure how we could have anyways. Right now, I don't think rg3 has the respect of his coaches or teammates. He needs to grow up in this offseason if he wants to have a future in the league.

I don't hear anyone with inside knowledge saying this. RG needs to concentrate on football and prepare for next season.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by donofriose

So basically RG3 in his second year learning while Manning is a vet and knows what to say. Lets remember Manning wasnt quite Manning in his first couple of years. Wasn't it his 4th year where he threw 23 interceptions?
Also Manning had deflected blame from himself in his younger days. Imagine if RG3 came out and said they had "protection issues" like Manning did after the Colts played Pitt a couple of years back. Hopefully RG3 will learn just like Manning did how to say the right things and be a better QB. Or maybe Cousins will instead.

Plus no one would be whining about a lack of weapons. Manning would make his own weapons out of whoever they trotted out on the field with him.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Plus no one would be whining about a lack of weapons. Manning would make his own weapons out of whoever they trotted out on the field with him.

Possibly, but Manning would have ran Shanahan out of town a year ago, opening the door to find better players.