Gameday Thread: Browns vs. Redskins

[MTK]

Tantrums come in many different sizes. Doesn't have to be a full-blown meltdown like Leaf. Johnny got upset he was playing like shit and all the trash talk got to him. You can bet other teams are taking notes.

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Agreed- but due to the fact that it wasnt really a "melt down" im just holding off on saying he doesnt have what it takes mentally to be a player/leader in this league. Sirius radio was just talking about him and Leaf as a matter of fact and pointed out that Leafs teammates didnt like the guy from day one. I think the Manziels teammates do like him and that speaks volumes about whats actually inside a guys head. As opposed to what outsiders think is in his head. Time will tell.

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Ill say this - in one day ive talked more about the Browns than i have in my entire life. Lol

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Redskins safety Ryan Clark appeared on Mike & Mike Tuesday and claimed to know (what prompted Johnny Manziel to flip off the bench).

"I can tell you what the statement was that set him off. The statement was … This isn't college any more and these people are faster than you are," Clark said. "He didn't like it. That was me cleaning up the statement but that's pretty close to what it was."

I think Manziel would be better served staying in the pocket and using his athleticism Aaron Rodgers style. RG probably should too, instead of crossing the LOS so much, but at least he has the speed to beat defenders to the edge and then outrun them. I think Manziel is probably a little better than RG at shaking a defender one-on-one, but he just doesn't have RG's elite speed.

I think Manziel has the physical tools to succeed in the NFL, but if he doesn't mature really fast and start playing smart, he's gonna get killed in this league. He's not a big dog or the best athlete on the field anymore... he's probably just a little brat to most of these guys.

[Chico23231]

F*ck johnny manziel

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

F*ck johnny manziel

This is how i felt about Tebow. Absolutely rooted for the guy to fail miserably. Just dont have the hate for Manziel. In college -before all the negative shit- i really enjoyed watching him play n rooted for him. Maybe thats why.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Tons of hate for Tebow who seemed like a decent (albeit goofy) guy? Manziel seems like a class-A douche.

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Tons of hate for Tebow who seemed like a decent (albeit goofy) guy? Manziel seems like a class-A douche.

Yeah I know. I am reserving judgement on Manziel to see if he matures and learns from his mistakes. Sort of like Lebron albeit Manziel has douched out on a few more occasions than Lebron did.
My hate for Tebow is complicated. Haha.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by punch it in

This is how i felt about Tebow. Absolutely rooted for the guy to fail miserably. Just dont have the hate for Manziel. In college -before all the negative shit- i really enjoyed watching him play n rooted for him. Maybe thats why.

I dont hate Tebow or Manziel.Tebow seems like a good guy and I wish he would get another shot but I doubt very much he will because of the media mess that goes with him.Same goes for Manziel,he screws this up any team that picks him up is going to have the same media circus with him.

I guess the reason I was pulling for Manziel is because I always thought Doug Flutie didnt get a fair shot in the NFL and JM is Flutie part deux.Manziel is such an ass it makes it hard to root for him,and if he does succeed like I want him to he's probably just going to become a bigger asshole

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by punch it in

This is how i felt about Tebow. Absolutely rooted for the guy to fail miserably. Just dont have the hate for Manziel. In college -before all the negative shit- i really enjoyed watching him play n rooted for him. Maybe thats why.

Manziel IS Tebow. I don't mean in terms of playing style, I mean in terms of being an overrated, overhyped fail as an NFL QB.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Agreed- but due to the fact that it wasnt really a "melt down" im just holding off on saying he doesnt have what it takes mentally to be a player/leader in this league. Sirius radio was just talking about him and Leaf as a matter of fact and pointed out that Leafs teammates didnt like the guy fromq day one. I think the Manziels teammates do like him and that speaks volumes about whats actually inside a guys head. As opposed to what outsiders think is in his head. Time will tell.

Are we sure his team mates liked him? I remember reading that several were unimpressed with him both as a player, as a pro, and as a person.

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Are we sure his team mates liked him? I remember reading that several were unimpressed with him both as a player, as a pro, and as a person.

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According to nfl radio (forget who) he seemed to believe they have his back. I havent heard anything negative as far as teammates go, but what do I know? Again time will tell on this one.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Tebow seems like a good guy and I wish he would get another shot but I doubt very much he will because of the media mess that goes with him.

Tebow could have had another shot, as a TE. He might have been a good TE but we'll never know because he was too proud to change positions.

He has no future as an NFL QB - not because of the media hype but because he can't throw the football well enough.

[Gary84Clark]

from Johnny futbol to Tebow. crazy train

[KI Skins Fan]

I thought the Redskins Cheerleaders had a good game. I expect them to go undefeated this season.