The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

[JoLo]

Screw getting blackmon and flynn. Trade up whatever we need to to get a guy that can completely turn us around like RG3 can, then throw every dime we have to get dwayne bowe in free agency. DONE

Then in the rest of the draft get some lineman and CB's

[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by JoLo

Screw getting blackmon and flynn. Trade up whatever we need to to get a guy that can completely turn us around like RG3 can, then throw every dime we have to get dwayne bowe in free agency. DONE

Then in the rest of the draft get some lineman and CB's

Eventhough that's a good scenario too, how much do you think it's going to cost us to trade up to # 2 to get him?

[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by musicmaster45

But are the chiefs gonna take him instead of Cassel??? Living Colorado i've seen a lot of Orton. Good very servicable. Only problem he cant win games on his own. Needs either playmakers or a good system or a good defense.

BINGO!!! That's why I don't want him. I'm tired of getting mediorce QB's. We need a QB who can take over a game.

[Cassadine]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

Eventhough that's a good scenario too, how much do you think it's going to cost us to trade up to # 2 to get him?

I'm not sure, maybe this year's 1st and 3rd and next year's 1st and 4th? Something close to that, but John Clayton from ESPN seems quite sure that's what we're going to try to do (it's in Dan Steinberg's column on The Washington Post).

Also, I'd be shocked if Holmgren was planning on drafting RG3, he has never ever drafted a QB in the first round.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Big C

true, but i dont want us to overpay/reach for him. if we give up a future 1st, id rather give it up for RG3

Same here.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Cassadine

I'm not sure, maybe this year's 1st and 3rd and next year's 1st and 4th? Something close to that, but John Clayton from ESPN seems quite sure that's what we're going to try to do (it's in Dan Steinberg's column on The Washington Post).

Also, I'd be shocked if Holmgren was planning on drafting RG3, he has never ever drafted a QB in the first round.

I could see Holmgren falling in love with Flynn. Green Bay would probably prefer he went to the AFC as well. I'd like to see us add 2-3 QBs. 1 free agent and a couple rookies.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Big C

hes been very average on a team with a hell of a lot more weapons that we have, in the same system. i didnt think he was any good in college, and i dont think he will be more than a backup in the pros.

His team made him the third stringer behind Leinart. Plus he's a rookie and under contract.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Blackmon will be gone before 6 and Tannehill won't last beyond 12 IMO.

Get Alshon Jeffery later. 6'4 vs. Blackmon's Michael Crabtree size.

[skinsfaninok]

I'd take orton with a qb like tannehill to groom. If not then I'd go flynn or RG3

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Get Alshon Jeffery later. 6'4 vs. Blackmon's Michael Crabtree size.

I think Jeffery could go late first especially after the combine.

[irish]

Anyone but RGIII. When I look at the QBs currently in the playoffs I dont see anyone playing RGIIIs style. Its exciting to watch in college but doesnt win in the pros. Get a pro style QB for the pro game.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by irish

Anyone but RGIII. When I look at the QBs currently in the playoffs I dont see anyone playing RGIIIs style. Its exciting to watch in college but doesnt win in the pros. Get a pro style QB for the pro game.

One of the comparisons for RGIII that is most suited to him is Drew Brees. Same stature, similar arm strength and pocket presence. Don't fall into the lazy comparisons of Mike Vick and a smaller Cam Newton based on his athleticism and other 'obvious' comparables. In the pros he will be more of a Brees/Rodgers type meaning using his legs to extend plays vs. a tuck and run QB.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

so here's a Q

Flynn or RG3?

I guess I'd have to say Flynn for two reasons;

1- he knows the WCO
2- he's played a few games and has shown he can play in the NFL.

Flynn is supposed to be a FA so if we could get both Flynn and RGIII that would be ideal. Get a decent FA and trade up, or stay and get him, then take a 2nd round WR would be nice.

Or get Flynn, take a top WR, then get a developmental QB in the second round for the future.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by irish

Anyone but RGIII. When I look at the QBs currently in the playoffs I dont see anyone playing RGIIIs style. Its exciting to watch in college but doesnt win in the pros. Get a pro style QB for the pro game.

I disagree with that statement slightly. You dont need a QB like Vick, but the QB needs to be able move around. Rogers, Drew Brees, Rothlisberger, Dalton. Most of the QB's have the ability to extend the play and make throws on the run. What RGIII brings is that ability plus the ability to beat you with his legs. Look at Cam Newton. He has been exceptional this season. If you can get a guy that can make all the throws in the pocket as well as out of the pocket plus run like he can, I dont see how you can pass that up. Plus the kid is extremely football smart.

Cam Newton is going to make the Panthers a playoff team year in and year out. They lost so many games because the D couldn't sustain the early game intensity and gave up 4th quarter leads. When they get healthy on D and add some pieces, they will be dangerous.

[irish]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I disagree with that statement slightly. You dont need a QB like Vick, but the QB needs to be able move around. Rogers, Drew Brees, Rothlisberger, Dalton. Most of the QB's have the ability to extend the play and make throws on the run. What RGIII brings is that ability plus the ability to beat you with his legs. Look at Cam Newton. He has been exceptional this season. If you can get a guy that can make all the throws in the pocket as well as out of the pocket plus run like he can, I dont see how you can pass that up. Plus the kid is extremely football smart.

Cam Newton is going to make the Panthers a playoff team year in and year out. They lost so many games because the D couldn't sustain the early game intensity and gave up 4th quarter leads. When they get healthy on D and add some pieces, they will be dangerous.

You dont need a QB that can beat you with his legs, you need a QB who can beat you with accurate passes. A QB does need to be able to move around but that movement is only 2 or 3 steps in any direction. BR cant run a lick but he can move a couple of steps to get away from the heat plus he's a mountain of a man which makes him tough to bring down. Cam's biggest assett is his size and RGIII doesnt have that. Cam played 1 good season but time will tell if he's a Big Ben or a big version of Vick. Until a run style QB wins something in the pros I'll stick with a pocket passer any day.