Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Raiders, Derek Carr Carr close to massive deal that will pay QB about $25M annually

The skins will have to pony more than $25m/year, that's the rumor around here. Cousins has better numbers than Carr if I'm not mistaken. This is not good.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

The skins will have to pony more than $25m/year, that's the rumor around here. Cousins has better numbers than Carr if I'm not mistaken. This is not good.

It's all about the guaranteed money. Let's see how much of Carr's money is guaranteed. I think Carr is very much a comparable QB to Cousins.

[insane4theskinsi]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

It's all about the guaranteed money. Let's see how much of Carr's money is guaranteed. I think Carr is very much a comparable QB to Cousins.

40 million,according to espn.

[insane4theskinsi]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

It's all about the guaranteed money. Let's see how much of Carr's money is guaranteed. I think Carr is very much a comparable QB to Cousins.

40 million,according to espn.

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

The skins will have to pony more than $25m/year, that's the rumor around here. Cousins has better numbers than Carr if I'm not mistaken. This is not good.

actually no . . . carr had like 6 more TD passes and 10 less interceptions than Cousins . . . and is 6 years younger than cousins . . . Carr is a FAR FAR FAR better prospect than Cousins.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

actually no . . . carr had like 6 more TD passes and 10 less interceptions than Cousins . . . and is 6 years younger than cousins . . . Carr is a FAR FAR FAR better prospect than Cousins.

Carr has also already had a major injury in his young career. I think you went three fars too far in comparing the two. Also, at the money we're talking about here, these two QB's had better not be prospects. They need to be stars.

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Carr has also already had a major injury in his young career. I think you went three fars too far in comparing the two. Also, at the money we're talking about here, these two QB's had better not be prospects. They need to be stars.

if you think that the top 12th to 15th ranked QB is all Cousins will ever be, NO WAY you give him the contract he wants . . . if you give him a huge contract you are banking on what you think he'll become still . . .that is still about what his prospects are

[Alvin Walton]

Cousins will be out here by me for his football camp on July 6,7,8,9 give or take a travel day. I would think hes got to sign before that or immediately afterward.

https://kirkcousins.org/camp-schedule/

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Cousins will be out here by me for his football camp on July 6,7,8,9 give or take a travel day. I would think hes got to sign before that or immediately afterward.

https://kirkcousins.org/camp-schedule/

the tag line is:
“Don’t get bitter. Get better“
– Kirk Cousins –

If that's what he's preaching, he ought to be signing at this point. No reason to be bitter at anything anymore.

[FlyerSkin]

Hopefully we can get the kid from
Wyoming if this doesn't pan out. I am not sure
Cousins is worth risking the building of the overall team if he asks for the moon. He has the crazy yardage stats, but he can't score in the red zone and throws ints at critical junctures of a game. I do want him signed, but not if we are going to have to let a ton of guys go in the near future that are balling. We can't expect to contend signing journeyman types to one year prove it deals on the cheap.

[KI Skins Fan]

JLC reporting that the Carr deal is said to include $75M salary over the first three years. That would be the most $$$ ever paid an NFL QB over a 3 yr. period, exceeding the $71.3M due to Andrew Luck in his contract. That is an indicator of the range we should expect for a Cousins LTD. It's crazy money, I know, but it is also the market for NFL QB's.

[Schneed10]

I think this should give the Redskins comfort in giving Cousins the money he deserves. Before this Carr deal they had to feel like they were stepping out on a bit of a limb, giving Cousins so much would have made them feel like they were above the market for him.

But this shows that the market is going to keep increasing for quality QBs, as long as there are so few quality QBs in the NFL.

If I'm the Redskins brass today I'm feeling more comfortable. Yeah Kirk will be expensive, but other QBs are going to get paid too. They're not going to find themselves at a cap disadvantage compared to other teams - other QBs are going to get theirs too.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think this should give the Redskins comfort in giving Cousins the money he deserves. Before this Carr deal they had to feel like they were stepping out on a bit of a limb, giving Cousins so much would have made them feel like they were above the market for him.

But this shows that the market is going to keep increasing for quality QBs, as long as there are so few quality QBs in the NFL.

If I'm the Redskins brass today I'm feeling more comfortable. Yeah Kirk will be expensive, but other QBs are going to get paid too. They're not going to find themselves at a cap disadvantage compared to other teams - other QBs are going to get theirs too.

That's a good insight on this. I was wondering if the Carr deal would help or hinder the talks with Cousins. Let's hope a deal gets done soon!

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think this should give the Redskins comfort in giving Cousins the money he deserves. Before this Carr deal they had to feel like they were stepping out on a bit of a limb, giving Cousins so much would have made them feel like they were above the market for him.

But this shows that the market is going to keep increasing for quality QBs, as long as there are so few quality QBs in the NFL.

If I'm the Redskins brass today I'm feeling more comfortable. Yeah Kirk will be expensive, but other QBs are going to get paid too. They're not going to find themselves at a cap disadvantage compared to other teams - other QBs are going to get theirs too.

I agree with this. I think the Skins didn't want to step out with a crazy number and open themselves up to criticism. If Carr gets this type deal, I believe the Skins will be willing to get to that same level. Carr and KC are pretty much around the same level.

[FlyerSkin]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think this should give the Redskins comfort in giving Cousins the money he deserves. Before this Carr deal they had to feel like they were stepping out on a bit of a limb, giving Cousins so much would have made them feel like they were above the market for him.

But this shows that the market is going to keep increasing for quality QBs, as long as there are so few quality QBs in the NFL.

If I'm the Redskins brass today I'm feeling more comfortable. Yeah Kirk will be expensive, but other QBs are going to get paid too. They're not going to find themselves at a cap disadvantage compared to other teams - other QBs are going to get theirs too.

You gotta be kidding me!!!? Unless the NFL increases the cap considerably before the season starts, the FO is sweating bullets if they indeed do want to keep him. A Qb that hasn't won a playoff game wants to be the highest paid QB in the league? If he matches what Carr wants that will be fine, but what if he goes nuts and goes way beyond the Carr deal? If the cap doesn't go up the Skins have to jettison some decent players in the not too distant future and we will really never turn the corner. Is Kirk worth that? I am not so sure. I do like him and want him signed, but damn he wants to be paid more than Brady or Brees? The only saving grace is that the '18 QB crop is stacked if he does indeed go too high, which would tell me he wants to leave..