Now What??

[pg86]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

we will never NEVER NEVER NEVER have a winning team with danny and vinny running the show and that's the bottom line, we need a real FOOTBALL gm til then we are doomed just gotta brace yourself for a long ride. hail

Yep your totally right 99, 05,07 we totally missed the playoffs and oh man that 99 season we totally lost our shot at the conference championship in When we lost to frisco...


yes im being sarcastic unless you mean we will never have another 14-2 season??

[SBXVII]

Ok, this is what I would do, see if Holmgren will come in as consultant to assist Zorn. If he won't we are screwed. If he does then lets see what changes. Maybe we have a chance to salvage something.

Then at the end of the yr evaluate the situation, If nothing has changed and we have a losing yr then contact Marty Schottenheimer and bring him in as GM. Move Cerrato to handling only the contract/business side of things. Let Marty have control of player personell and assist with scouting. Bring in Brian Schottenheimer as HC (since he has done so well with the Jets) and give him the opportunity to bring in his own coach's.

Since we already have AH and he used to be in a 3-4 make the only suggestion that whoever Brian brings in we are looking to change to a 3-4 style of defense.

Brian Schottenheimer:
Brian Schottenheimer : Offensive Coordinator : Official Jets Bio : New York Jets Team News

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Ok, this is what I would do, see if Holmgren will come in as consultant to assist Zorn. If he won't we are screwed. If he does then lets see what changes. Maybe we have a chance to salvage something.

Then at the end of the yr evaluate the situation, If nothing has changed and we have a losing yr then contact Marty Schottenheimer and bring him in as GM. Move Cerrato to handling only the contract/business side of things. Let Marty have control of player personell and assist with scouting. Bring in Brian Schottenheimer as HC (since he has done so well with the Jets) and give him the opportunity to bring in his own coach's.

Since we already have AH and he used to be in a 3-4 make the only suggestion that whoever Brian brings in we are looking to change to a 3-4 style of defense.

Brian Schottenheimer:
Brian Schottenheimer : Offensive Coordinator : Official Jets Bio : New York Jets Team News

Interesting. I agree that Brian Schottenheimer will be a head coach soon, maybe after this year. But Holmgren would never come here mid-season as a "consultant" and make changes, and we wouldn't do it either. Might as well just fire Zorn and Cerrato, b/c bringing Holmgren here and giving him power to makes changes right away totally undermines them. And then you want to bring Marty in right away if Holmgren can't right the ship after taking over mid-season? Huh?

[SBXVII]

^Well we are not mid season yet. We are only 3 games into it. This gives Holmgren a couple of games to evaluate talent and try to assist and a couple of games to try to adjust things prior to the break. Then he has two weeks to finalize adjustments.

Zorn is a product of Holmgren. Holmgren should understand what he's thinking and how to help him even in the play calls.

You do make a good point though, Holmgren is going to want a real job like GM or something. He will have some sort of clause in his contract about letting him go early as well I would presume.

I just don't see cutting a HC at the beginning of the season as good business. Whoever comes in is at a serious disadvantage until the team learns his system or play calls. Maybe we just ride this broken rollercoaster and hope we get a pick near the top in order to pick a decent QB. Ya know, for Schottenheimer.

[SmootSmack]

Bring back Marty and Brian!!

Seriously, I'd love for either B Schott or Kyle Shanahan to be our "star young head coach of the future"

Speaking of the Texans, I'd keep an eye on what happens with Kubiak this off-season

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Bring back Marty and Brian!!

Seriously, I'd love for either B Schott or Kyle Shanahan to be our "star young head coach of the future"

Speaking of the Texans, I'd keep an eye on what happens with Kubiak this off-season

I also looked into Shanahan as HC and maybe Kyle Shanahan as his OC or make father GM and son HC like I would with the Schottenheimers.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Bring back Marty and Brian!!

Seriously, I'd love for either B Schott or Kyle Shanahan to be our "star young head coach of the future"

Speaking of the Texans, I'd keep an eye on what happens with Kubiak this off-season

If Schotty came back I'd personally know that Snyder's influence on the team would cease to exist.

Just what this team needs, let's do it!

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Bring back Marty and Brian!!

Seriously, I'd love for either B Schott or Kyle Shanahan to be our "star young head coach of the future"

Speaking of the Texans, I'd keep an eye on what happens with Kubiak this off-season

Would Marty ever consider worker for Snyder again?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Would Marty ever consider worker for Snyder again?

I think he would, but only under his terms.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Would Marty ever consider worker for Snyder again?

Sure, but I really doubt it will happen. Eight years ago, Snyder wanted Marty to only coach and Marty wanted to be coach and general manager. Now Marty is more interested in only being the general manager, but I don't know that Snyder wants him to do that. I think he prefers him as a head coach.

So it's certainly possible, but I don't necessarily see it happening.

Too many rumors and names going around right now to really know for sure what's happening

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Sure, but I really doubt it will happen. Eight years ago, Snyder wanted Marty to only coach and Marty wanted to be coach and general manager. Now Marty is more interested in only being the general manager, but I don't know that Snyder wants him to do that. I think he prefers him as a head coach.

So it's certainly possible, but I don't necessarily see it happening.

Too many rumors and names going around right now to really know for sure what's happening

Marty as GM is an interesting thought.

Depending on how this year goes do you really think Snyder would be ready to hand over the keys to a GM not named Vinny and step completely out of the way?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Marty as GM is an interesting thought.

Depending on how this year goes do you really think Snyder would be ready to hand over the keys to a GM not named Vinny and step completely out of the way?

Well it was rumored before last season that in 2-3 years Cerrato was going to move to a non-football position and either Morocco Brown or Scott Campbell-most likely Brown-was going to get bumped up to overseeing football decisions.

Snyder will always be involved, no matter who he brings in. That's not going to change. But his level of involvement is something that will always be scrutinized and overplayed.

Right now, I don't believe either Gruden or Holmgren are likely candidates. I thought Cowher was the favorite, but Carolina might make too much sense for him.

The name most frequently being mentioned around here is Shanahan. I've been pretty certain that Shanahan is going to Dallas, but I've been told Holmgren might actually be a more likely candidate there because Holmgren supposedly is ok with just coaching and letting Jerrah continue as the General Manager.

If Shanahan does come here, then it's pretty much a lock that Kyle Shanahan will be at least our Assistant Head Coach.

I don't like Shanahan (Mike) as a General Manager so I'm hoping that doesn't happen.

[SBXVII]

Hey if Marty and Brian can get us to 14-2 wining seasons I'd be happy. Then maybe Brian could help push the team over the hump and win a SB

[dmvskinzfan08]

I think Sherman Smith made some interesting comments in video on Redskins.com.

Tell me what you guys think...

[jamf]

If we are going to bring someone back, I think it should be Charlie Casserly.

Give me Casserly as GM and President and any talented coach and I will be happy.


If I had to predict what snyder is going to do, I think he will replace Cerrato with Bruce Allen and Hire Herm Edwards as HC.