Report: Grossman Starting on Sunday

[4mrusmc]

The sad thing is that this season feels so much like last year with the team seemingly self destructing. Us fans deserve so much better than what we have been getting.

It has taken me until about 3 weeks now to come to realize that this is all Dan Snyder's doing. He maybe a great buisness man in the coorperate world, but the vision and the buisness model he has for our Redskins is SHIT!

I highly encourage all of the fans that will attend the last few games at FedEx this year, to boo the piss out them every chance they get. Dan S. needs to hear the boos echo throughout the stadium. Boo so much that the talking heads on national tv make regular comments about it.

Dan S. you have made this once proud franchise your toliet, and us fans are fed the F up about it! R U in? F you Dan and EVERTHING about this sorry ass team!

[SkinzWin]

The Redskins have a lot of problems.
1. We have a revolving coaching door.
2. We have a terrible offensive live.
3. We have a terrible defensive scheme to match the players we currently have.
4. We have no depth at virtually all positions.
5. We have an old team. THE OLDEST TEAM. Maybe ever.
6. We have some diva head case players that cause problems.
7. We have virtually no picks in every draft because of Cerrato.
8. We had Vinny Cerrato.
9. Vinny Cerrato used to make personnel decisions.
10. Dan Snyder.

Here is how I see it. I say this all the time on here. Winning cures all ills. We have not had a winning culture in DC for a long time. We have an owner with good intensions and a terrible track record. We had Vinny making decisions with an even worse track record who left our future in shambles with aging rental veterans and no draft picks.

People are so polarizing in these posts. Its either Shanny's fault b/c of his inability to relate to players and make stupid decisions, or its the fault of players. Well, last I checked, teams are winners or losers not by one person, but by all people together. Owner, front office, coach, staff, players, everyone. We haven't had a real good track record with any of that lately.

Has Shanny made some stupid moves? Yes. Do a lot of our players suck? Yes. Do we need to rebuild and do things a different way? I think so, and I think progress is being made. My point is, Rome wasn't built in a day. This shit that we are in took a long time to cook up and its going to take a long time to get out of. Yes Shanny has made some stupid decisions but I think he has been laying it out there the way you have to in order to get something good to come out of a team.

Zornification of a team is not going to work. That has been proven. People that are saying Shanny is going to get fired, that he isn't good for the team, are stupid. No he hasn't been perfect, but its going to take many years and a hard nosed approach to getting this ship turned around and headed in the right direction. I for one have been saying for awhile we need to take the Bucs approach to blowing up this team, dropping all the dead weight veterans and infusing the team with free agent and drafted youth.

The bottom line is what we have been doing has not been working and I would be a much happier fan sitting through several years of losing football with a youthful team with upside and the possibility to get better than the old, falling apart mess we have been witnessing for so long.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

The Redskins have a lot of problems.
1. We have a revolving coaching door.
2. We have a terrible offensive live.
3. We have a terrible defensive scheme to match the players we currently have.
4. We have no depth at virtually all positions.
5. We have an old team. THE OLDEST TEAM. Maybe ever.
6. We have some diva head case players that cause problems.
7. We have virtually no picks in every draft because of Cerrato.
8. We had Vinny Cerrato.
9. Vinny Cerrato used to make personnel decisions.
10. Dan Snyder.

Here is how I see it. I say this all the time on here. Winning cures all ills. We have not had a winning culture in DC for a long time. We have an owner with good intensions and a terrible track record. We had Vinny making decisions with an even worse track record who left our future in shambles with aging rental veterans and no draft picks.

People are so polarizing in these posts. Its either Shanny's fault b/c of his inability to relate to players and make stupid decisions, or its the fault of players. Well, last I checked, teams are winners or losers not by one person, but by all people together. Owner, front office, coach, staff, players, everyone. We haven't had a real good track record with any of that lately.

Has Shanny made some stupid moves? Yes. Do a lot of our players suck? Yes. Do we need to rebuild and do things a different way? I think so, and I think progress is being made. My point is, Rome wasn't built in a day. This shit that we are in took a long time to cook up and its going to take a long time to get out of. Yes Shanny has made some stupid decisions but I think he has been laying it out there the way you have to in order to get something good to come out of a team.

Zornification of a team is not going to work. That has been proven. People that are saying Shanny is going to get fired, that he isn't good for the team, are stupid. No he hasn't been perfect, but its going to take many years and a hard nosed approach to getting this ship turned around and headed in the right direction. I for one have been saying for awhile we need to take the Bucs approach to blowing up this team, dropping all the dead weight veterans and infusing the team with free agent and drafted youth.

The bottom line is what we have been doing has not been working and I would be a much happier fan sitting through several years of losing football with a youthful team with upside and the possibility to get better than the old, falling apart mess we have been witnessing.

The Raiders of the early 2000's would disagree

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The Raiders of the early 2000's would disagree

We don't have the Al Davis voodoo magic. And this ain't yo momma's early 2000's football league anymore. It's 2010. If it was going to work like it did for the Raiders, it would have already happened.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

We don't have the Al Davis voodoo magic. And this ain't yo momma's early 2000's football league anymore. It's 2010. If it was going to work like it did for the Raiders, it would have already happened.

Oh I agree that we are too old to win but I was saying the Raiders may have been older than this team back then lol.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

The Redskins have a lot of problems.
1. We have a revolving coaching door.
2. We have a terrible offensive live.
3. We have a terrible defensive scheme to match the players we currently have.
4. We have no depth at virtually all positions.
5. We have an old team. THE OLDEST TEAM. Maybe ever.
6. We have some diva head case players that cause problems.
7. We have virtually no picks in every draft because of Cerrato.
8. We had Vinny Cerrato.
9. Vinny Cerrato used to make personnel decisions.
10. Dan Snyder.

Here is how I see it. I say this all the time on here. Winning cures all ills. We have not had a winning culture in DC for a long time. We have an owner with good intensions and a terrible track record. We had Vinny making decisions with an even worse track record who left our future in shambles with aging rental veterans and no draft picks.

People are so polarizing in these posts. Its either Shanny's fault b/c of his inability to relate to players and make stupid decisions, or its the fault of players. Well, last I checked, teams are winners or losers not by one person, but by all people together. Owner, front office, coach, staff, players, everyone. We haven't had a real good track record with any of that lately.

Has Shanny made some stupid moves? Yes. Do a lot of our players suck? Yes. Do we need to rebuild and do things a different way? I think so, and I think progress is being made. My point is, Rome wasn't built in a day. This shit that we are in took a long time to cook up and its going to take a long time to get out of. Yes Shanny has made some stupid decisions but I think he has been laying it out there the way you have to in order to get something good to come out of a team.

Zornification of a team is not going to work. That has been proven. People that are saying Shanny is going to get fired, that he isn't good for the team, are stupid. No he hasn't been perfect, but its going to take many years and a hard nosed approach to getting this ship turned around and headed in the right direction. I for one have been saying for awhile we need to take the Bucs approach to blowing up this team, dropping all the dead weight veterans and infusing the team with free agent and drafted youth.

The bottom line is what we have been doing has not been working and I would be a much happier fan sitting through several years of losing football with a youthful team with upside and the possibility to get better than the old, falling apart mess we have been witnessing for so long.

I'm glad to see we do have a few intelligent and football knowledgable Redskins fans on this site. Well said and I agrre 100% with you.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Oh I agree that we are too old to win but I was saying the Raiders may have been older than this team back then lol.

Only because of Rich Gannon. lol

[Dread-Skin]

Why resign McNabb and even keep him if he is moving down the depth chart?

AND I WANT A REFUND ON MY MCNABB JERSEY AND THE ONE I BOUGHT FOR THE GF, THIS IS BS !!!!!!

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Dread-Skin

Why resign McNabb and even keep him if he is moving down the depth chart?

AND I WANT A REFUND ON MY MCNABB JERSEY AND THE ONE I BOUGHT FOR THE GF, THIS IS BS !!!!!!

That's y I buy the Chinese fakes lmao

[Dirtbag59]

I'm personally more interested in seeing what Beck can do so hopefully he'll get a shot.

[Eknox]

I support the coaches decision Mcnabb has done nothing to deserve to keep playing, besides that we need a high 1st round pick. Who better to help than sexy Tech.

[Dread-Skin]

according to
Thomas Boswell - Donovan McNabb benching: Mike Shanahan wears two hats and should add a third - dunce cap

McNabbs numbers : He's passed for 3,377 yards, seventh best in the NFL, and was on pace for his first 4,000-yard season. Also, under a constant battering, he's turned the ball over 16 times, 15 on interceptions but only one on a fumble.....Shanahan is wrong in thinking McNabb is unworthy to run his offense and execute his son's plays.

I have long wanted a 4000 yd passer here. That means we are moving the ball even late in games and scoring points. This article shares shares how I am feeling that OL/RB depletion really had the team in a bind and I didnt realize just how big a rift Kyle/McNabb were dealing with. McNabb never really got a chance. We let go of DThomas, we keep Galloway. Coach has cleaned house like in historic and pariah like fashion.

Why couldn't we head into the offseason with a QB and build up the OL/get defense players??? I am amazed that every facet of our team is in turmoil b/c despite having Banks we have no LS, K ,or P so even Danny Smiths special teams suffers .All the AH drama and Haslett failures/f*ups are easier to accept in the end.

[SmootSmack]

Yes McNabb has thrown for a lot of yards but when you watch the games you see that a) he left a lot of yards on the ground and b) we are so fortunate to have Armstrong's ability to adjust on deep routes

[juskins]

I can't wait to see how Rex runs this offense. Way too much negativity surrounding this decision to see what and how Grossman will do in place of McNabb. Was slightly surprise by the move but its how football coaches keep their jobs.

Go Rex!

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by juskins

I can't wait to see how Rex runs this offense. Way too much negativity surrounding this decision to see what and how Grossman will do in place of McNabb. Was slightly surprise by the move but its how football coaches keep their jobs.

Go Rex!

Welcome to the Warpath juskins!