Redskins vs. Bengals Post Game Reaction

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

DE Rak
DT Cofield
DT Bowen
DE Kerrigan
OLB Riley
MLB Fletcher
OLB Draft pick or FA signing

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

DE Rak
DT Cofield
DT Bowen
DE Kerrigan
OLB Riley
MLB Fletcher
OLB Draft pick or FA signing

And give Mike Zimmer a ton of money to be our d-coord.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

DE Rak
DT Cofield
DT Bowen
DE Kerrigan
OLB Riley
MLB Fletcher
OLB Draft pick or FA signing

Overrated.

How many of these guys start for another NFC east team outside of Fletcher?
Our two "Young Studs" aren't as good as Osi-JPP, Cole-Babin and Ware-Spencer.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by jamf

Overrated.

How many of these guys start for another NFC east team outside of Fletcher?
Our two "Young Studs" aren't as good as Osi-JPP, Cole-Babin and Ware-Spencer.

Let's see - hmmm - I know at least 2 of them would- because Bowen and Cofield actually did before they came to the Redskins.

And are you saying that it's the players that are mostly at fault?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

DE Rak
DT Cofield
DT Bowen
DE Kerrigan
OLB Riley
MLB Fletcher
OLB Draft pick or FA signing

That is a beautiful site. Imagine if we could have that. Wait a minute.....

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

And give Mike Zimmer a ton of money to be our d-coord.

Draft all secondary and oline and spend every remaining penny in free agency on that other linebacker and oline n secondary again. Oh and shitcan danny smith for good measure.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by jamf

I think that is classless.
All team have to deal with poor officiating not just the Redskins.
The refs suck, he has to adjust and deal with it.
Daniel Snyder needs to chase down Kyle and ask him why the Redskins are 11-40 on third downs. only Tampa has a worse 3rd down conversion ratio.
I don't understand how they can average 5 yards per carry and be so bad on third downs.

Good point. I think everyone is just so fed up with the refs ( not just because of the redskins) that its nice to hear that anyone is letting them have it. But i agree - everyone is harping on the defense - and for good reason. But truth be told our offense could be even better.

[warriorzpath]

One thing that Haslett should know if he doesn't already - he needs to be up at least 20 hours a day this week to fix these problems. Instead of fixing anything and improving from game to game, it's actually gotten worse. If this trend continues, I can reasonably predict that Haslett will be fired within 2 games. At this point, the redskins defense is an embarrassment.

[CultBrennan59]

Just read through a bunch of posts and heres my 2 cents:

- Carlos is gone. Get over it. As is LaRon. Same with Sean Taylor, RIP. Same with Ryan Clark. Obviously guys don't pan out or play the way you hope and need a change of scenary to be good somewhere else.

- I hate DHall with a passion. Last year I wanted him to be cut. Having said that, he has been playing real well this year in my opinion. He went against AJ Green today. Green is a top 5 WR IMO. I'm not expecting DHall to go all Darrell Revis over him. DHall did all he could today. Oh and it was Gomes who got blown by the first play of the game, NOT Dhall.

- Why the hell are people here already wanting to change BACK to a 4-3?!? We just spent all this time and money on 3-4 and now because a couple teams run the 4-3 we should run it again?!? PLEASE. This is yet another fan overreaction to a loss. You all should be happy we have a franchise QB, not pissed that our defense sucks. Injuries happen. Theres only so many guys in FA with a limited salary cap and in the draft that we can get to fix the problem.

- Trading Orakpo? He's probably our best defensive player. Yes I know Londons great, but London won't be a star 3 years from now. Thats the difference is the present to the future. It was one game. Yes, Rob Jackson looks good, but AGAIN its 1 (one) UNO! Game. Next week we'll be hearing "Cut Rob Jackson!" with this crowd.

- You all don't like Haslett. I get it. He doesn't 'adjust' during games. I can see where you're coming from, but Haslett or no Haslett, if you have no secondary, you're not going to be good on defense.

- SmootSmack for those who maybe wondering for next year, who are some good 3-4 DCoordinator candidates? Or should we assume Raheem becomes the new DC? And if Raheem does, would he change the defense from 3-4 to 4-3 since he's a 4-3 known guy?

[The Goat]

Yes, the offense could be better. Right now the only way this offense thrives is with RG3 running often, keeping the defense on its heals, but also resulting in a lot of big hits to our franchise QB. No starting caliber QB can keep this up for a season. (Tebow probably could for example, but he's not starting caliber.) Morris is good, but RG3 is at least half his "goodness" so far in the regular season. The play-calling and scheme, up until the point RG3 starts taking off every 2nd or 3rd play, are as bad is it gets in pro football. When he's not looking to run, the offense looks the same as the last couple years, when you could tell the defense was (correctly) reading every two out of three plays Kyle called.

RG3 is a superstar for as long as he's healthy, but otherwise...we're three years in with this regime and have only one starting-caliber OT on the roster (who's now injured) and the best downfield targets so far this season are guys the current regime inherited.

And sticking with the big picture theme, the defense is garbage by any measure, including when compared to the one Shanny and Co inherited. Was that defense older? Sure. Was it in need of some updating? Definitely. Was it also vastly superior to what we've (collectively) seen with Shanahan/Haslett? If you even waiver in saying yes...the kool-aid is strong within you my friend.

Going into this season I knew Mike would never coach another SB team again, but now I suspect he'll never coach a winning team again either.

[warriorzpath]

Gomes was saying he was playing too close to the line on the first play and td of the game. And Crawford said it was his fault too that he didn't look back for the ball (which he thinks is his strength) when he got beat for the last td.

So Rich Campbell (who's work I like) uses these examples to put some of the blame on the players, I think he's absolutely wrong. They didn't do what they needed to do, but it's because they didn't prepare well enough. And whose main responsibility is to prepare them? You got it - Haslett. The articles keep mentioning his lack of in game adjustments, but his pregame planning and preparation have been as bad.

[RGIII]

The secondary is playing with poor judgement but, the lack of pass rush isn't helping. Unfortunately this team roster breakdown doesn't suport a switch to the 4-3 especeially considering the reash of injuries. I'd like to see Haslett/Morris gradually implement some 4-3 looks to see if guys perform better in that scheme with Kerrigan and Jenkins at DE, Cofield and Bowen at DT, Riley and Jackson at OLB, and Fletcher at MLB.

[hagams]

I want to take a different angle during my post game review.
-RGIII is one TOUGH SOB! He took some serious shots today, and kept shaking them off. My main concern is that this is going to take its toll after a few more games like this. We have got to find a way to lessen the amount of direct impact hits he's taken. Rookie censation or not, nobody can take to much of that (Vick) before it has long term effects.
-Morris is a f-ing beast, and is looking like a steal from the 6th round.
-No punts blocked!
-The refs still sucked, but at least this group tried to get it right.
-Doesn't look like Trents injury will keep him out too long (his replacement looked like a pregnant stripper with an eye patch)
- Even with Orakpo and Carriker gone, we still managed to put a little pressure on them.

Glass half-full guys. We can't expect to play lights out with 3 starters out on D, and 2-3 at a time on O. We are getting to where we need to be, I just think we ran the ball a little too much. There were 3-4 short screen passes, but other than that we didn't do much to take some pressure off the QB. The triple-option was nice, but 2-3 plays in a row was over the top. HTTR!!!

[jdc65]

There is a lot to discuss, mostly bad. The good is that RGlll is the real deal, Morris looks like a true bell cow, the defensive front 7 looks pretty impressive, and Cundiff is a solid kicker. Unfortunately, it's a win now league, their not, and it's Shanahan's 3rd year here.

What's most troubling is the team is supposed to carry the rookie quarterback while he acclimates to the NFL, and instead he is carrying the team on his back. 3 years Shanahan has now had to mold a strong base to work with, and this team looks worse than the Cerato-Zorn teams if not for Griffin's phenominal play. Shanahan and his staff have done a lousy job of surrounding their franchise Qb with enough quality talent to protect him and ease him into the league. He's already in the fire, and it looks like it's only going to get hotter.

[jdc65]

In my opinion, Kyle showed true desperation in this game with the triple option. That's an ace you hold up your sleeve for a playoff or big December game to surprise the opponent in a must win situation. Not in the 3rd game of the season with your franchise quarterback. That card has been played now, and we can only guess at what the next Grif gimmick will be. I think Kyle is relying too much on his athletic Qb's ability, as well as putting him at unneccessary risk, to make himself look better. This is not about the future, this is about keeping his job and avoiding criticism.

The book has been written early on Griffin, which is treat him like Vick, meaning take away his outside escape, and pound the crap out of him at every opportunity. Vick is already shell-shocked, and I believe Foles will be running that Philly offense sooner than later.

You can bet the house that Schiano's Buccaneer defense will hit him high and hard every chance they get. Griffin is already showing signs of frustration. Even in high school, we were taught to slam the qb on all option plays. It's a free kill shot. No way RG can take the abuse if this keeps up, and now every team on the schedule is laying in wait.

The offensive line is, as usual, a disaster. Everyone killed Cerato for the mess he made of the 2009 O-line. This line is worse. While the interior linemen are decent at their run blocking, they cannot keep a clean pocket at all in pass pro. The tackles are a mess, and it wasn't great when Trent was in, but now? Griffin constantly has to make something out of nothing. It's time to just call Compton up, and give him the learning experience. He at least has a potential future here. Polumbus and Black will be gone next year if not sooner. They haven't even seen the elite pass rushers yet, and they are getting roasted by no names.