Cardinals vs Redskins game thread

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by NYCSkin

When you say wildcard--you mean next year right?

Haha, it's really looking like that lately.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I agree.. I am a little iffy on Saunders now.

Our WR don't suck, they just can't catch. Well... I guess that would make them a little sucky. I was upset that Moss didn't get more catches especially after that poor GB game. So I guess we have to wait till next week to see if he'll bounce back.

The only reason JC didn't look great was because he didn't open it up very much and when he did, they were dropping passes.

Last place in the division... I dunno. I don't think so. Our defense is too good. If the offense doesn't win games then the defense will (like today)

I think we may look at a wildcard position at best.

We already lost to the Gmen, forget beating the Boys at all and the Eagles are an improved team somewhat from the one we beat on MNF. If our O line was intact I would say we would be a 2nd place team for sure, but not how things have looked the past 2 weeks. WR production is terrible this season. Llyod hasn't been on the radar screen all season, and now Santana decides to start dropping off the screen now also. I still say give McCardell some more playing time. The guy is a gamer and we need production now.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

We already lost to the Gmen, forget beating the Boys at all and the Eagles are an improved team somewhat from the one we beat on MNF. If our O line was intact I would say we would be a 2nd place team for sure, but not how things have looked the past 2 weeks. WR production is terrible this season. Llyod hasn't been on the radar screen all season, and now Santana decides to start dropping off the screen now also. I still say give McCardell some more playing time. The guy is a gamer and we need production now.

Yes! I completely agree. McCardell has been put in when we need big 1st down gains. He only has 2 or 3 catches but he caught them!

Why they don't give this man more playing time I don't know! What the hell is the point of getting McCardell and Caldwell when you're not gonna freakin use them?

[BleedBurgundy]

Let's go Vikings! I'd like to see the Cowboys get knocked off today...

[gabe1984]

On our last posession, what was up with that draw play on third and seven? To me that was almost saying "We're just going to give Arizona the ball back!" Why would you call that play on such a crucial posession? Is it because they don't want an interception? If that's the case, how we gonna win games with that kinda of crap play calling?

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by gabe1984

On our last posession, what was up with that draw play on third and seven? To me that was almost saying "We're just going to give Arizona the ball back!" Why would you call that play on such a crucial posession? Is it because they don't want an interception? If that's the case, how we gonna win games with that kinda of crap play calling?

It seems to me we've always done that... No matter who's coached this team I can remember so many third and 5+ draw plays. Always pisses me off. It's like a Redskins' signature move...

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by gabe1984

On our last posession, what was up with that draw play on third and seven? To me that was almost saying "We're just going to give Arizona the ball back!" Why would you call that play on such a crucial posession? Is it because they don't want an interception? If that's the case, how we gonna win games with that kinda of crap play calling?

I don't have a problem on third & seven with the draw to keep the clock moving, but why on 2nd and 7 with an injured line and a pathetic passing game do you not run the ball or throw a high percentage pass to keep the clock moving....if we keep the clock moving on 2nd down AZ probably doesn't have time to get in FG range and may not have scored the TD.

[Gmanc711]

I think the quote of the day, is we lost games we deserved to win (both NYG/GB)...now we defintley won one that we should have lost.....I mean I'm very excited/happy we won...but that was one of the ugliest wins I've ever seen.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

I think the quote of the day, is we lost games we deserved to win (both NYG/GB)...now we defintley won one that we should have lost.....I mean I'm very excited/happy we won...but that was one of the ugliest wins I've ever seen.

I was thinking the same exact thing. This was a game we clearly deserved to lose.. In the paper that win counts as much as the Lions win but we'll take it.

[Dirtbag59]

ESPN - Arizona vs. Washington Photos, October 21 2007 - NFL Football

What happened here?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

ESPN - Arizona vs. Washington Photos, October 21 2007 - NFL Football

What happened here?

Since no one answered you:

Last play of the 1st half, we blocked a Rackers PAT attempt. Neil was angry about it, turned around and pushed Carlos Rogers. Carlos pushed him back and the kicker grabbed Carlos' facemask and pulled him to the ground. Rogers grabbed Rackers' facemask too just before getting pulled down but let go pretty quickly. Rackers never let go, even after he was on the bottom of a pile.

Both guys received offsetting facemask penalties, which is a crap call because Rackers started the whole incident and was the one who pulled Rogers down by his facemask. Stupidly, he pulled Carlos on top of himself.

[GusFrerotte]

Yeah I have to take back the stuff about JC. A QB is only as good as his WR corp. WE paid all these bums top dollar and we get crappy play in return. Snyder needs to quit dolling out the cash so fast. Build with the draft and address needs. I say trade these bums(Lloyd, Moss, shoot even Thrash to sweeten the pot) with the exception of maybe Randle El( Caldwell and McCardell are exempt from my wrath) and draft a WR or two.

[NYCSkin]

I don't completely blame the WRs--they need opportunities to make plays. That involves calling plays that attempts to put the ball in their hands. Downfield preferably (not on end arounds)...

[GusFrerotte]

Have to catch a decent ball thrown your way though NYC to make plays. Saunders is an ass, and he is a big part of it(offensive woes), but dropped passes by this calibre of a WR corp is unacceptable.

[NYCSkin]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Have to catch a decent ball thrown your way though NYC to make plays. Saunders is an ass, and he is a big part of it(offensive woes), but dropped passes by this calibre of a WR corp is unacceptable.

I agree--dropped passes are unacceptable. But you have to feed your playmakers. 1-2 passes/game to Moss/ARE/Lloyd is not acceptable. Our strength right now on offense is actually our QB. Let the kid sling it and stop handcuffing him with dink and dunk plays. If he is checking it down each time, fine, but I doubt that is happening. And if they want to run--how about trying it out of a 4 wide set? Spread the field and try Portis that way...