Redskins Lions postgame

[skinsfaninok]

Bill cowher isn't coming back folks. And gruden probably won't either

[Chief X_Phackter]

Nothing I have seen these first three weeks would have me come to this conclusion logically. However, after taking a step back from the emotions from the third bad loss in a row, something tells me this team is going to crush the Raiders this week.

1-3 going into the bye isn't the end of the world, but a lot more has to get cleaned up in all three phases - and consistently - for me to become optimistic about this team again.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

While I am not a Haslett sympathizer I doubt we would see an improvement in play by this D with a change.

Certainly cant get worse though...literally and historically cannot get worse.
As for cowher or gruden - if there is a change made next year - i personally dont think either of them is to far removed from coaching to do it again. I think that is crazy talk. Gibbs was removed and absorbed in nascar - who knows if he even watched the games on Sunday? Probably not since it is race day. Cowher and Gruden - different story Gruden was coaching five short years ago.
That being said i agree with Okie - they arent coming back, but to say they are too removed to do so is silly imo.

[skinsfan69]

One thing I hate about the 3-4 is seeing Rak and Kerrigan in coverage.

[CASKINS]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

One thing I hate about the 3-4 is seeing Rak and Kerrigan in coverage.

Agreed Kerrigan not so much but I feel like rak is a better Defensive tackle

[CASKINS]

Jeez is Jim Haslett watching this game!?!?..............THIS IS HOW YOU TACKLE

[skinsfaninok]

Y would haslett watch how to tackle?

[Green Monk Machine]

If we lose to Oakland or Dallas, do we part ways with Haslett by the time he enters the locker room?
We obviously are going to rebuild the team. What would it matter to axe him since the season is over b/c we aren't going 12-4 or 11-5?

This sucks. It has to be decided who's in who's out. Losing Mike shanahan would add to the years left of agony. It has to start with Haslett, but honestly Kyle isn't trustworthy to me b/c his success is based nothing on his abilities. More horrifying is that if mike really cared about winning something more would have bbeen done. How do you ever bring your son to work day in the nfl and claim your in it to win it?

[CrustyRedskin]

Lmao! Rebuilding! Holy crap rebuilding, what year is Shanahan in 4, 5 helliv lost count rebuilding! !! Sweet mother of pearl

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

Lmao! Rebuilding! Holy crap rebuilding, what year is Shanahan in 4, 5 helliv lost count rebuilding! !! Sweet mother of pearl

I completely agree with you.

There's nothing to REBUILD...we've been building and 3 weeks does not make a whole season. To start "rebuilding" would be tearing down a VERY solid team. You don't blow things up because of a short-term losing streak. Did we hold a fire sale and clean out the coaching staff when we were 3-6 last season?

This team is NOT this bad. We're in a tough situation transitioning Griffin back into games but the defense is the real problem. On paper we're talented and deep, so maybe Haslett is the culprit or replacing him might motivate the D, but the players we've put together are not the problem, it's their execution for some unknown reason.

[CultBrennan59]

Watching the Bears last night reminded me of how I would hype up Marc Trestman to other fans. Its too bad he isn't a coaching candidate. Offensive genius, that would have put RG3 and Morris in a very balanced offense that can succeed.


People still don't get it that changing to a 4-3 defense fixes 0 NOTHING ZILCH ZIP NADA. The 3-4 is a better defense in the league anyway because it gives you more flexibility and options blitzing. The reason our defense sucks has nothing to do with the scheme. It has to do with not being able to tackle. We could have 12 guys on the field, it still wouldn't make us better because we can't tackle. Another problem with our defense is that we don't line up in our base defense often. How many times this year have we lined up with 3 DLineman, 4 LBs and 4 DBs? Not much, we play to our opponent as opposed to our opponent playing to us. If you watch how the Steelers (whom we base our defense off of) defense plays, it will line up more in base causing offenses to adjust to it. When Pittsburgh won the super bowl a few years ago, I remember their defense being so dominate that offenses would play to it with its personnel, audibles, protection. When the Redskins play, teams say "oh they have 6 DBs on the field, they suck, lets throw it to ______, because they can't stop him."


As far as solutions go. I would fire Haslett at the Bye, give Raheem the DC duties to see how our defense responds after 12 games. If Raheem isn't good, fire him get Rex Ryan or hire Kevin Greene from GB (I think he'll be good), if neither of them come, typically the LB coach from a good 3-4 Defense are the best 3-4 DC candidates (Ron Rivera could also be a candidate).

I would also tell Mike to retire. Go young, get Kyle to coach. If Mike doesn't retire, let Kyle hopefully walk away with a Head Coaching position elsewhere so it doesn't look like we 'fired' him should he decided to come back and coach us one day in the future (I'm referring to a Gregg Williams bad break up; keep that from occurring with Kyle).

And now that we have cap money next year, I'm offering Orakpo a $6 million a year deal as a take it or leave it kind of deal. I'm giving Trent Williams a new contract extension. I'm also going hard after Jarius Byrd and Aqib Talib. We need a safety and a CB badly. Those guys can flip around our secondary from bottom of the league to middle of the pack at the worst. Then I'm drafting MLB's, RTs, and pass rushers all throughout the draft.

Already looking forward to next year folks

[Bucket]

All this talk about firing Mike and Kyle makes my head hurt.. It's like Week 8-10 last year all over again.. Some of you guys are so see-saw it's ridiculous.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Bucket

All this talk about firing Mike and Kyle makes my head hurt.. It's like Week 8-10 last year all over again.. Some of you guys are so see-saw it's ridiculous.

21-30.

It's hard to remember sometimes that we're being led by geniuses.

[SolidSnake84]

I can't understand why we have inexplicably abandoned the read option. Is it so much to do with Griffin being on a bad leg, or is it just two different philosophies between Mike and Kyle? I would hope they would go back to what made them successful last season.

We might be 0-4 coming out of the bye and at that point, i think it would be good to fire Haslett. The defense cannot get any worse, as others have pointed out...

[NC_Skins]

Perry Riley AMA tomorrow at 4:15pm.

Wonder if he'll answer anything real about that shitty defense.