Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Jerome bettis actually agrees with mike and says Griffin needs this time to study from the sideline, honestly it does make some sense

It makes some sense to let Cousins play, you just can't spin it as something you do for Griffin's benefit. The team might be better in the short-term without Griffin trying to play through his struggles. But there's no question it hurts the team long term to sit him.

The person making the decision has no long term future, and only has a short term future. You can put two and two together.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It makes some sense to let Cousins play, you just can't spin it as something you do for Griffin's benefit. The team might be better in the short-term without Griffin trying to play through his struggles. But there's no question it hurts the team long term to sit him.

The person making the decision has no long term future, and only has a short term future. You can put two and two together.

Yeah, I don't really understand why more people don't get this. There are a finite number of live game reps a young NFL player gets and all of them are valuable, even the bad ones.

Right now we are averaging 69 offensive plays per game. That's 207 more snaps of live action that Griffin isn't getting. That's 207 times seeing a live defense, seeing a blitzer, reacting to a coverage, reading a defense, etc that simply cannot be replicated anywhere else. By opening day next year, Griffin will be 8 games (4 regular season/4 preseason) games behind his 2012 rookie peers.

No matter how you try to look at it, this isn't a good thing for his long term development. This is a final F-U from Shanahan to Griffin, Snyder and Redskins fans. How people aren't getting that is pretty baffling to me.

[FRPLG]

I simply don't agree its the right decision. Coach the kid. Work on the gameplan to focus on what he needs to improve. What does he learn on the sideline in 3 games? Not much. It appears his biggest issue right now is his confidence. Coach him and put him in a position to build back the confidence.

[Skins4L]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I simply don't agree its the right decision. Coach the kid. Work on the gameplan to focus on what he needs to improve. What does he learn on the sideline in 3 games? Not much. It appears his biggest issue right now is his confidence. Coach him and put him in a position to build back the confidence.

yup

[Skins4L]

glad 43% of the forum agree to bench rg3. haha ur "agreeing" with a coach whos getting canned based on that dumb move. way to go boys

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by Skins4L

glad 43% of the forum agree to bench rg3. haha ur "agreeing" with a coach whos getting canned based on that dumb move. way to go boys

Shanny is being canned because of his poor record. Horrible with picking QBs, his historically bad defense, and the worst special teams I ever saw period (including Pop Warner).

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

Shanny is being canned because of his poor record. Horrible with picking QBs, his historically bad defense, and the worst special teams I ever saw period (including Pop Warner).

How we all might be surprised if MS is NOT fired. If Cousins plays well for 3 games then it would point to the problem being RG3 not the system or coaching.

I hope to heck though that if they decide to keep MS then they gotta, gotta, gotta fire Haslett and Burns and bring in a decent DC (not Morris) and a decent Special Teams Coordinator.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

How we all might be surprised if MS is NOT fired. If Cousins plays well for 3 games then it would point to the problem being RG3 not the system or coaching.

I hope to heck though that if they decide to keep MS then they gotta, gotta, gotta fire Haslett and Burns and bring in a decent DC (not Morris) and a decent Special Teams Coordinator.

RG3 does not play special teams or defense. As soon as the Redskins get down by double digits, it's gonna get ugly. I saw Kirk's quarter Sunday, offensive line looks the same. He took a beating. Kirk is not Tebow.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

RG3 does not play special teams or defense. As soon as the Redskins get down by double digits, it's gonna get ugly. I saw Kirk's quarter Sunday, offensive line looks the same. He took a beating. Kirk is not Tebow.

Wait... does that mean he's better? I'm asking cause I think Tebow is not a good QB.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

How we all might be surprised if MS is NOT fired. If Cousins plays well for 3 games then it would point to the problem being RG3 not the system or coaching.

I hope to heck though that if they decide to keep MS then they gotta, gotta, gotta fire Haslett and Burns and bring in a decent DC (not Morris) and a decent Special Teams Coordinator.

If cousins plays well it will be because the Skins played the Falcons (29th ranked D), The Giants (21st ranked D), and the Cowboys... possibly the Worst defense ever. If he actually was concerned for RG3 or wanted to give Cousins a chance he would have benched him against KC. Except Shanahan knows KC would kill Cousins too so he would look like an idiot, which in my opinion, he already does.

I think this was well calculated move by Shanahan for future coaching jobs for him or his son.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by donofriose

If cousins plays well it will be because the Skins played the Falcons (29th ranked D), The Giants (21st ranked D), and the Cowboys... possibly the Worst defense ever. If he actually was concerned for RG3 or wanted to give Cousins a chance he would have benched him against KC. Except Shanahan knows KC would kill Cousins too so he would look like an idiot, which in my opinion, he already does.

I think this was well calculated move by Shanahan for future coaching jobs for him or his son.

Ok, so I guess the coaches mind set is "hey, if I bench the 90% healthy starting QB with 3 meaningless games left and claim I'm protecting him then some other team will look at that as being brilliant and hire me." ? That does not make sense since most here seem to think its a dumb idiot move.

I think MS and KS would have gotten picked up somewhere else no matter what. I mean look at Marty Schottenheimer and his son. Marty moved to several teams but kept getting picked up. His son is with the Rams right now but didn't coach well with the Jets his final year.

I think owners are smart enough to know that its not just about putting together a great coaching staff but also having great players who buy into the system. If any one of the three are bad (coaching, system, or players) then no play offs, no SB. But sometimes its a crap shoot. A very expensive crap shoot putting together the right mix.

[Skins4L]

next year when dude goes off ill keep in mind nobody had our boys back. when hes shitting on defenses again. no qb in the nfl has MORE overall talent than 3. bunch of shanahans in here.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Skins4L

next year when dude goes off ill keep in mind nobody had our boys back. when hes shitting on defenses again. no qb in the nfl has MORE overall talent than 3. bunch of shanahans in here.

That's not entirely true. I do. So do others.

I only want RGIII to sit long enough for the Shanahans to get out of town so that Kyle won't have any more chances to do something stupid to get him reinjured. That is the bottom line.

When RGIII came out of college, I was most excited about the way he threw the long ball. He was one of the best at that that I've ever seen. Second, his arm strength. Third, his athleticism in terms of his ability to avoid the rush and make a potentially negative play into a positive one. Fourth, his great speed and running ability.

I never viewed him as a runner, per se, except on rollouts and occaisional QB draws or read option plays, just to keep the defense honest.

Here's what has happened to him this year: First of all, he's not fully recovered from his knee injury. Second, he has had to deal with very poor pass protection. Third, his receivers are not getting open on a consistent basis.

Also, he is only in his second year and he is learning to become a pocket passer in the NFL. With his intelligence and drive, I don't know how anyone could doubt his ability to learn his trade very well. I think he will come back strong next season.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

That's not entirely true. I do. So do others.

I only want RGIII to sit long enough for the Shanahans to get out of town so that Kyle won't have any more chances to do something stupid to get him reinjured. That is the bottom line.

When RGIII came out of college, I was most excited about the way he threw the long ball. He was one of the best at that that I've ever seen. Second, his arm strength. Third, his athleticism in terms of his ability to avoid the rush and make a potentially negative play into a positive one. Fourth, his great speed and running ability.

I never viewed him as a runner, per se, except on rollouts and occaisional QB draws or read option plays, just to keep the defense honest.

Here's what has happened to him this year: First of all, he's not fully recovered from his knee injury. Second, he has had to deal with very poor pass protection. Third, his receivers are not getting open on a consistent basis.

Also, he is only in his second year and he is learning to become a pocket passer in the NFL. With his intelligence and drive, I don't know how anyone could doubt his ability to learn his trade very well. I think he will come back strong next season.

I agree totally. I want to see RG3 play but I don't trust him wiht this lame duck regime.

[Skins4L]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

That's not entirely true. I do. So do others.

I only want RGIII to sit long enough for the Shanahans to get out of town so that Kyle won't have any more chances to do something stupid to get him reinjured. That is the bottom line.

When RGIII came out of college, I was most excited about the way he threw the long ball. He was one of the best at that that I've ever seen. Second, his arm strength. Third, his athleticism in terms of his ability to avoid the rush and make a potentially negative play into a positive one. Fourth, his great speed and running ability.

I never viewed him as a runner, per se, except on rollouts and occaisional QB draws or read option plays, just to keep the defense honest.

Here's what has happened to him this year: First of all, he's not fully recovered from his knee injury. Second, he has had to deal with very poor pass protection. Third, his receivers are not getting open on a consistent basis.

Also, he is only in his second year and he is learning to become a pocket passer in the NFL. With his intelligence and drive, I don't know how anyone could doubt his ability to learn his trade very well. I think he will come back strong next season.

I see your point. I hope it works out for the better. I really do.